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Pearl

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Barked: Thu Feb 9, '12 9:49pm PST 
Okay, My shiba / mini husky mix has been a handful. I'm going to post my pitfalls and solutions in the hopes that others might learn from them, or at least tell me if I'm waaay off base.

Since we picked her up at 2 months, she's always been food possessive making matters worse after she eats she freaks out like this guy. Cesar just did a video about it and you can find it here.

http://t.co/eEQ1dKH1

We're working towards being able to get her to back off her off her food and she's getting better, slowly. I just wish I didn't try handfeeding her from months 3 - 6. That was crazy!

2) She's mouthy and play bitey, but if we dominate her she hasn't given in since 3 months ago. Now when she gets bitey and doesn't stop we've got a kennel set up in a dark separate room so she can calm down for a minute or two and we let her out. This is working well, I think. If she acts up again, she goes back into the room she goes. Is there any point in trying to dominate her by holding her mouth shut if she never squeaks to submit. She does roll over, and wiggle her tail, so it seems like she's just having fun.

We tried timing her out in her home crate while we're in the same room but last week we realized, she doesn't see that as punishment either because that's where she spends a big part of her day anyway.

Does an independent Shiba really care if its left alone? Ours likes to be around us, but after 9:30 she turns into grumpy gus and growls and snaps if we get close to where she's sleeping. We're working on this by having her sleep in the doorway to the bedroom where we have to walk past her. She started in her crate but now she's calm enough to let us walk past unchecked.

Here's where I'm stumped now, if she's on her pillow and growls at me walking past, should I get her off the pillow and take it away or let her trust that we're not going to take things away from her in the hopes that she'll stop growling.

Yes, I'm aware that I could just take the pillow out of the equation entirely, but I like that she has a target I can send her to. Also, I think this can be an opportunity for training if I play it right.

Does anyone elses shiba growl and snap if they get woken up? For 2 months, if she's laying on our lap and falls asleep, when she wakes up she'll growl and snap. You've usually got 2 seconds of growls before she makes her move. We usually flick her off our laps and on to the floor to avoid it.

Finally, has anyone got any good tips on teaching bite control and 'calm down' with their shiba?

Phoo.. that's a lot, thanks for reading.
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Saya

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Barked: Fri Feb 10, '12 2:44pm PST 
http://www.amazon.com/Mine-Practical-Guide-Resource-Guarding/dp/0970 562942/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1328913609&sr=8-3

This book might help with resource guarding.

Shiba tend to do better with positive reinforcement then aversive.

By dominating what do you do?

With lap thing maybe not let her lay on your lap? Surprisingly she likes to lay there Saya usually lays besides me, across the couch or across the room.

Saya still mouths, but not so bad what have you done to work on it?

How is her exercise maybe she needs more?

I'd answer bit more, but can't be on internet much gotta take care of my grandfather..
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Kaida

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Barked: Sat Feb 11, '12 5:30am PST 
I definitely think holding her mouth shut when she is getting out of hand is not a good way to handle her issues. I know I play with my dog this way and for her its a game and it gets her really hyped up. Your dog is seeing this as a threat, no wonder she growls at you guys. She simply doesn't trust you.
Positive reinforcement for good behaviors rather than reacting negatively for bad behaviors is the best way to train a Shiba. Many people make the mistake of using training techniques that work for the more common breeds. Shiba's tend to take things things personal so to speak. I do agree if she growls when you allow her on your lap, you letting her up there is only putting yourself in danger and setting her up for failure. You might want to consider a few sessions with a behavior therapist to possibly figure out whats going on with her. Something you are doing is likely triggering her reactions and you don't know it.
It seems odd she has been resource guarding to that extent even as an 8 week old puppy. Did she grow up a mill dog where she had to fight for her food even as a pup? What is her background like? I know Huskies tend to be a little more high strung and crossing them to an independent and sorta high strung breed has probably had a little effect on her personality as well. I'm sure others can step up with some more advice on how to deal with the aggression issues. I have never really had those problems. Dog aggression yes, but she seems to have issues rooted deeper than just protecting her food.

Is she this temperamental all of the time, or is it just occasionally? I have heard of dogs getting headaches and it can make them grumpy. A lady who is helping me through the rescue stuff has a shiba who has glaucoma. His eyes bother him more so on some days and the vet told her when he's grumpiest its likely his eyes are also making his head hurt. What I am getting at is maybe there is some underlying health issue with your pup causing her to react this way toward you as well. Maybe a trip to the vet to explain what is going on and some tests might provide some answers or eliminate health related problems.
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Pearl

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Barked: Sun Feb 12, '12 9:31pm PST 
Yeah, holding the mouth is being phased out, as previously mentioned. I was just getting good at it, even held her mouth my teeth gently once today and she sat nicely immediately.

There were actually a few things she was allergic to and we've probably eliminated all of them. The headache might have been making her a bit grumpy.

Exercise, off leash time, and having her politely obey house guests is helping too, this weekend she's been a dream. She only growled when I mistakenly teased her while giving back her pork chewing twist.

So, she's still got the ghost of 'grumpy gus' inside here so she's getting better.

She didn't come from a puppy mill, wasn't the runt of the litter but was very quiet.

I think there is something to the breed observation, gotta decide what to do differently now. I'll read up on Husky as well.
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