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Behavior & Training > More random attacks
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Barked: Mon Aug 5, '13 10:15pm PST 
Quick Update: No weirdness at all yesterday or today, no hard staring or anything. Snoopy and Moe have both been playing together again which is good. I was starting to get worried because from the day I had posted this they hadn't played at all and Moe had been trying to pick fights.

I think the lack of exercise he's been getting lately could be a contributing factor. With everything going on his walks haven't been as frequent. I took him running this time, then brought him to the park where he got to explore and do more running, then walked for the last 30 minutes or so. He was also charged and barked at by a small stray dog, he did nothing but wagged his tail and when the dog calmed down and approached Moe tried to play. I think that more intense exercise session helped ease his intensity and moodiness. He is behaving a lot better around the house today and seems a lot more cheerful. I am not going to let my guard down though.


Thank you Sabi,

At feeding time Moe goes in the garage to eat behind two closed doors, but it isn't just "his" food he gets protective of. If we are eating in the living room or on a bed and all the dogs around he will also try to guard our food from them on occasion. We can eat food in the kitchen without any issues. So whenever we are eating in the living room, we put Moe or all four dogs out back and we can watch them through the window. Unless he is calm and asleep then they go outside.

All four dogs can play together fine, when they are playing Moe is always happy to join, and Chewy keeps him in line. Whenever we cannot supervise them Moe does go in his crate with his toys or in another room. He has a very lazy side so once you put him in a crate or room he goes right to sleep. I think what caused the him to go after Snoopy after the morning walk was the anxiety and excitement, plus all of his energy wasn't let out from the walk.

I'm going to have my brother start walking Snoopy with me while I walk Moe. We have walked them together in the past without issues and hopefully we don't have any now or in the future.

Should he be "punished" when he picks out fights? With a time out in the bathroom or something?

I do realize that with training things should be positively reinforced and I would never do things negatively with any of my dogs. But I also don't think picking fights shouldn't just be ignored, and he should be shown that there will be consequences when he attacks another house mate and it will not be tolerated.
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Behavior & Training > More random attacks
Moe Jr.

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Barked: Sun Aug 4, '13 12:49pm PST 
Thank you Tyler. I have noticed he tends to look a bit nervous when he is crowded in the hallway or small spaces with the other dogs. I try to get him out of there as fast as I can, he hasn't gotten aggressive in those situations, but he does get uncomfortable.

Lenny- I really think he could get into Nosework and enjoy it. He does have that Basset Hound sense of smell, but he is also very reliable off leash surprisingly. I do know a guy who I was originally going to take Chewy to who does Shcutzhund, but with everything going on we haven't been able to go. Maybe that could be something fun for Moe. Even if he isn't a good candidate for bite work he could still do obedience and tracking.
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Behavior & Training > More random attacks

Moe Jr.

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Barked: Sat Aug 3, '13 2:58pm PST 
Lenny- Thank you for your response. The counter conditioning does sound like it could potentially help him see Snoopy in a better way and help him possibly build up some more tolerance. But like yesterday, Moe was simply in the yard, and when we let Snoopy out he wanted to go after him. I'm afraid if we tried something like that where they are separated, and on top of it food was present once we let them mingle again Moe will attack. I'm not throwing it out the window as an option to try though, but I'm not sure if Moe's attitude would turn it into more of a setback than a positive thing. I usually walk the dogs separately, but would it be a good idea to start bringing Snoopy on walks with Moe? Moe LOVES going on walks to the park so Moe might realize Snoopy = Walks and Park. Or could he see this as a Snoopy taking away from his one on one time?

Squ'mey- I have not read Mine, but I will definitely look into it.


I have been looking into dog sports, and possibly obedience classes. I know that he would LOVE weight pulling, but I cannot seem to find anyone in my area that does it. I'm not sure if weight pulling actually has classes like agility does, or is it something owners train their dogs to do and then just go to events?

Do you guys have any other suggestions as far as dog sports go? I was thinking tracking as well for that Hound side of him, but I also think he might like something more intense.
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Behavior & Training > More random attacks

Moe Jr.

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Barked: Fri Aug 2, '13 11:46pm PST 
Thank you for your responses.

Almost had another incident today. I was out in the yard with all four dogs, everything was fine. I put the other three inside and Moe wanted to stay out with me. My mom came out in the yard and Snoopy followed. Moe's tail went down, his ears were slightly back and he was giving that look. I snapped him out of it, but he instantly went back to staring at snoopy and walking toward him. I got up real quick and Moe, broke the stare. I took them inside and he continued, so we put them in separate rooms. I'm 99% sure we would have had another attack if we didn't put them away. Snoopy did nothing other than walk into the yard, he didn't even look at Moe.

Meme- I will definitely look into a Bully forum if anyone knows some good ones a link would be appreciated. Before when fights broke out, they were mainly all noise, and air snapping. But the other day he tried going for the neck, and that was a real shock. We've always supervise them, and when we can't be around Moe goes in his crate.

Squ'mey- Moe can get food aggressive around our dogs, when food is around his personality goes from happy go lucky to killer shark. He will get that look and attack. Really we have done a lot in the past and present to redirect his attention, but it doesn't seem to clear his head from what he was previously doing. Like today, I redirected several times, and took him back in the house, he went right back to hard starting, redirected again, then went back to staring. I really would like to get a behaviorist to see what they think, but right now we are going through a lot with family, and my grandparents are staying with us while my grandma is going through cancer treatments.

I really don't know why he is pretty much only targeting Snoopy, pretty much randomly. He has only gotten aggressive with Baby around food, but then in any other situation it is always Snoopy. Snoopy is only 25 pounds, of mush and Moe is 60 pounds of rock hard muscle. Now on top of it I have my mom getting really nervous about the whole thing.

I'm not sure if this could dog aggression starting to crop up. But he always has great respect for other dogs and he is always non confrontational. He met other dogs yesterday in the park, sniffed and played. Today he played outside with my cousins dog for like two hours. When Moe was trying to eat a piece of fruit that fell from a tree and My cousins dog came by, he didn't even give a look, he ran around and tried to play with it in his mouth. If that had been Snoopy instead Moe probably would have given the shark eye and attacked him.
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Behavior & Training > More random attacks

Moe Jr.

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Barked: Wed Jul 31, '13 4:28pm PST 
Thank you for the response Nare.

I know that a hard stare is a warning, but in his case I wasn't sure if I could consider it one. It's more like an expression he gets right before he attacks, it doesn't seem like he's trying to warn them. It's just a look then he goes straight into action. His attitude toward me hasn't changed at all, or with anyone else in the house. We can take food from him, toys, etc. He's never shown any human aggression or anything like that.

I wouldn't doubt he may have some resource guarding issues, but it just seems too random. One day he doesn't care about something and a few days later for whatever reason he feels the need to attack over it. Like this morning, I let the dogs out, and suddenly his tail went up when they went running through the house and he waited for Snoopy and then attacked once he came close. I was across the room.

I may have made the situation seem a bit worse than it actually is, but he does get along with the dogs really well, he plays with them everyday and whenever they sleep he is always right next to one of them trying to cuddle. Another thing is 99% of the time his attacks are ALL directed at Snoopy, he's only gone after Baby a couple times, and never Chewy.

Baby made it known from day one she was "the boss" and Chewy is twice Moe's size, but can clearly correct and control Moe when he needs to. Maybe this is him trying to put Snoopy in his place combined with something else like resource guarding?



I will start looking into dog sports for him. I know he would love weight pulling, but I can't find anyone that does that in my area.
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Behavior & Training > More random attacks
Moe Jr.

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Barked: Wed Jul 31, '13 10:47am PST 
In the past we were having issues with Moe being rude, pushy, food aggressive with our dogs, and starting fights with Snoopy and Baby. The "I'm a jerk attitude" went away for awhile and we have been managing the food aggression. We have gone months without any issues.

Now he's becoming a jerk again. We have been having fights again.

This is what has taken place the past couple of weeks.

Mom came home from work, dogs were excited. Moe and Snoopy bumped into each other and Moe attacked. A necklace fell on the floor, snoopy started licking it, Moe INSTANTLY attacked. I came home from a 90 minute walk with Moe. We did 3 sprints around the park and he played with another dog. We came home and he went after Snoopy. Snoopy just walked out of the kitchen and BAM. This time he was going for the kill. He was trying to get his jaws around Snoopy's neck, but he slipped on the tile and Snoopy got away. Once the fight is started he DOES NOT stop it doesn't end when you pull them apart he will keep going and going. This morning in the heat of the moment I literally had to lift him by the neck and throw him out.

Whenever our dogs are sniffing things or investigating boxes, bags or anything he walks over and goes nose to nose with them. I don't know f he is simply investigating too or trying to be a bully and get a fight going. I don't know if he will start a random fight over that too now So do what I can to redirect his attention. He also gives these silent glares, randomly to the dogs.


Could this be the start of dog aggression now that he is maturing? He loves other dogs outside of our home though... He plays with my cousins BC and goes to the dog park and is NEVER confrontational. He literally happily greeted and played with a dog in the park right before we came home though. But at home he is a jerk. Don't get me wrong all the dogs get along and you can tell they are close, but he randomly picks out fights and is becoming unpredictable. He's gone after Baby three times, but it wasn't much of an attack, but he wouldn't let up either. He has never gotten aggressive with Chewy, and Snoopy is the one he ALWAYS goes after.

He also NEVER gives warnings when he is about to attack, its a hard silent stare followed by the attack. He never growls, doesn't bare teeth or anything of the sort.


Any advice or input would be appreciated. I really thought this was just a one time jerk teenager phase, but it is starting up again and his attacks are more intense.
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Behavior & Training > Doesn't like his harness anymore?

Moe Jr.

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Barked: Tue Jun 25, '13 11:56am PST 
Hi all,

I have been walking Moe with a harness for a very long time now and he has never had an issue with it, until a couple weeks ago. Suddenly he runs away whenever I try to put the harness on, tries to dodge me from slipping it over his head, and when I'm clipping it on him he seems tense. It's always been harness equals walk, so he loved it. Now he just doesn't want his harness on, but will let me put a leash on his collar. Once the harness is on though he's fine with it, I have no idea why he suddenly doesn't like it anymore.

Any advice on how I can get him to love his harness again?

Thank you
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Dog Laws & Legislation > Innocent Chained Pit Bull shot & killed in own yard by the police

Moe Jr.

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Barked: Wed Apr 3, '13 2:13pm PST 
"The term pit bull refers to certain breeds of dog – namely, the American Pit Bull Terrier, the American Staffordshire Terrier, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, and any crosses between the three. In a few parts of the world, the American Bulldog is also classified as a "Pit Bull-type" dog, despite its major genetic differences."

An American Bully is a pit bull, because they're pretty much a cross of staffy's and APBTs.

I don't see what owning a REAL American Pit Bull Terrier has to do with anything. If you have all 3 dogs together, an American Bully, a Staffy, and a APBT out in public they will ALL more than likely be called pit bulls. When I walk around with Moe on the street they don't say. HEY that looks like an American Bully, they say he looks like a pit bull. Even though he's half basset 90% of people comment on him looking like a pit bull other 10% assume he's giant 60 pound weiner-dog with a huge head that is built like a truck.

ALL of the pit bull breeds have bad reputations. You make it seem like the APBT is getting blamed because people are mistaking staffys and bullys for them.

Maybe Sabi could have worded that differently, but I'm pretty sure she just meant that a lot of people that own these dogs have no idea what they're doing or are just plain stupid and the others that are intentionally making bad dogs. That is what I'm sure she meant by the "losers". Of course she wouldn't be calling the good responsible owners that have put in the training, time, and socialization into their dogs losers. She's talking about the people who make these dogs aggressive or just get them to look tough and slap a 50 pound chain around their neck, and don't do anything else with them, or the ones that leave them in a back yard all day for years with no training or anything that eventually get out and attack another dog because their owner is irresponsible.
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Behavior & Training > How do you correct a dog for starting a fight with another pack member.

Moe Jr.

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Barked: Thu Mar 14, '13 4:35pm PST 
If a dog starts a fight or goes after another pack member, what do you do to correct them? and how do you break them of it?

Moe's a little rambunctious and can be pushy a rude with our the smaller dogs. He LOVES them to death, but we've had moments where he's started scraps.

Most were caused by his food aggression issues, but that has been managed. A couple of times he's had days where he's a butt head and instigated a scuffle without food present. I'm really trying to break him of it, but I'm not sure of the best way to correct it and break him of it.

It's not bad or all the time, most days they're fine, but then other days he's can be a jerk.

Moe's never challenged Chewy or shown aggression toward him, but Chewy's got 60 pounds on Moe, and he's over a foot taller. I don't think Moe is confident enough to start anything with him, but he also shows him more respect. He's getting bolder with the small dogs.


I know a lot of people say to take whatever is causing them to fight and put it away, and then put them in time out. But what if it's just one dog who is starting it just to start it?

Thanks for any advice.
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Choosing the Right Dog > APBT Noses...
Moe Jr.

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Barked: Thu Feb 7, '13 6:37pm PST 
I've always thought it was just a color, I'm not sure if different colors served different purposes, and so forth. I'll probably do some research now though lol.


Moe is half bully and you can see his nose is grayish or "blue." The fur around his mouth and eyes is also "blue."

My dad had a staffy with the same coloring and markings as Moe, but his nose was black and so were his markings.

Red noses have reddish looking noses, like this-

http://www.passionpetphotos.com/My-Pets/Shelly/i-MJd7gzW/2/ L/IMG_7368-L.jpg
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