Ice and ice water for our doxies

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Oscar and- Callie

Barked: Mon Sep 3, '07 3:16pm PST 
Dogsters Group: ~ Dachshunds Forever ~
Subject: Important info that could save our lives Sent: Fri Aug 10

Mommy just got a message from a private doggy group she belongs to and she feels we need to post it here.

Bloating from Ice Water

Hello Everyone,
I am writing this in hopes that some may learn from what I just went
Through. We went to the Steel Valley Cluster this past weekend. We were
Having a fair weekend till Saturday. On Saturday was the EVRC specialty,
I had my Baran boy with me as this was his first show as a veteran.
Baran was so happy to be in the ring again after about a year of not
Showing. He was all geared up and showed like a trooper. He was at the
Top of his game, and everyone was commenting on how good he looked at
71/2 years old. Baran was Best Veteran Male and went on to the BOB ring,
In the BOB ring Baran again showed great he showed so good I figured he
Would make the cut and have a chance at no less then one of the two

Well anyway it did not work out that way. After showing we went back to
Our site/set up and got the dogs in their crates to cool off. After
Being back about 30min. I noticed Baran was low on water. I took a hand
Full of ice from my cooler and put it in his bucket with more water.
(Note: I use a small Playmate cooler at ringside with ice water in it
Also. Have for over 15 years now) I use small 2qt. Buckets in my crates.
He had maybe 1/2 a bucket when I placed him in his crate after coming
Back from the ring. We all then started to get all the dogs Ex'ed and
Food ready for them.

I have a 18 foot trailer with AC and set up as a rolling kennel it fits
7 42" crates, and MY express Van holds 1 48", 1 42", and 3 36", crates
All the crates in the van have 24 " box fans over them. I had Baran in
His 48' crate in the van cause that is the place he loves to be. He
Loves to be able to see everyone and every thing. After checking the
Dogs and thinking they were cooled off enough we feed everyone. As we
Were walking around picking out the feed dishes from the crates, one of
My friends stated that Baran seamed like he was choking. I went over and
Check on him and he was dry heaving and was real drolly. I got him out
Of the crate to check him over I noticed he had not eaten, he was in
Some what distress. I checked him over from head to toe and did not
Notice anything. I walked him around for about a min. When I noticed
That he was starting to Bloat. I did everything I was taught to do in
This case. I was not able to get him to burp, and we gave him Phasezime.

We jumped on the golf cart to take him down to the Show vet to find out
That he did not have a bloat kit, He referred us to the clinic that was
To be on call, but we found out that the clinic was closed. After
Finding another clinic that was open we rushed Baran to that one. We
Call ahead and let them know that we were on our way. They were set up
And waiting on us and got Baran stable very fast. After Baran was stable
And out of distress we transported Baran to AVREC were he went into
Surgery to make sure no damage was done to any of his vital organs. I am
Very happy to say that Baran is doing great, there was not damage to any
Vital organs, and he still loves his food.

In surgery the doctor found that Baran's stomach was in its normal
Anatomic position. The Doctor and I went over the events of what
Happened up to the point of Baran's Bloating. When I told him about the
Ice water he asked why I gave him ice water, and have I always did this.
I told him my history behind this practice and his reply was "I have
Been very lucky for the past 15 years." The ice water I gave Baran cause
Violent Muscle spasm in his stomach which caused the bloating. Even
Though I figured his temp was down enough to feed and give him this ice
Water his internal temp was still high. Dr. Vogf stated that giving
Dog's' ice to chew or ice water is a big NO, NO; there should be not
Reason for them to have ice/ice water. Normal water (room Temp.), or
Cooling with cold towels on the inter thigh. This is the best way to
Help cool a dog. How Dr. Vogf explained it to me was like this: If you
As a person fall into a frozen lake what happens to our muscles? Think
About that, then compare that to your dog's stomach.

I felt the need to share this with everyone, in the hopes that some may
learn from what I went through, I do not wish this on anyone. Baran is
home now doing fine. He dose not like the fact that he has to be walked
on lead in the yard to keep him from running. He hates not being able to
go out and rough house it with the others, but is doing great. So please
if you do use ice and ice water, beware as what could happen.

Sorry so long and excuse the misspellings. ..

Take Care and God Bless,

Is that snack- for me??
Barked: Wed Sep 12, '07 4:13pm PST 
Thanks for sharing this! I never give ice cubes but I never imagined they could be that much of a problem eithershock I usually give them a bit of yogurt from the refigerator as a cool treat on hot days. Makes me wonder about things like frosty paws thinking