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The Importance Of Spaying Before The First Heat

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Luna (Lovegood)

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Barked: Thu May 24, '12 8:12am PST 
So three days ago I "adopted" a 6 month old female Beagle from a friend of a friend who is being forced to move and where she is going she could not take her dogs.

Luna had been dumped over her fence as a young puppy. And the mutual friend had emergency surgery around the same time they took in a abandoned Luna. And so she didn't take her to get any shots ect and we don't know anything about the people who abandoned the puppy (if they bothered to vaccinate her ect, I'm thinking if they abandoned her that her health was not on their list of worries).

Anyways despite all that Luna is a very healthy 6 month old puppy. No runny eyes, poops, has a great coat and body weight ect. And I have her scheduled not this Saturday but the next to get all of her vaccinations.

Now I definitely want to have her spayed. I have no desire for an "oops" litter and am not a aspiring backyard breeder.

But I have seen alot of people mention how important it is to have Beagles especially spayed before the first heat.

The mutual friend I got her from is not the knowledgable. And she was not sure if Luna had experienced her first heat yet. I was looking at her the other day and it didn't look like she was bleeding. But Morrison (my neutered male) has been pretty obsessed with her girl parts. And so for all I know she could be going through a "silent heat".

Is it that bad to have her spayed after her first heat? What are the concerns?

It has been so long since I had a intact female dog. Could someone fill me in on all the signs (other than bleeding) of a dog in heat or even silent heat?
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Samson

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Barked: Thu May 24, '12 1:56pm PST 
Modern research has shown that it's actually beneficial for males to stay intact for the duration of their life, and perhaps females as well (though it's a bit trickier). From a health perspective, though, around 3-5 years minimum is my general observation. (And in both cases, male and female, we're talking, especially after a year or so, very, very minimal changes in health risks - and even at six months the health risks are relatively small).

But this also fails to take into account how comfortable an owner is with an intact dog, the kinds of activities the owners wish to participate in (some places won't allow intact dogs, for instance), and any behavioral issues that may arise.

To strictly answer your question, I'd say "not at all important" - but again, only you can know the specific circumstances.

Watch for any enlargement of her privates, bleeding, etc. Could mean she is going into heat. There is some behavioral research too that suggests waiting to spay until a couple months, IIRC, after a heat to allow the hormones to settle out to more normal levels. Spaying while they are subsiding supposedly puts female dogs at risk for behavioral issues. I can try and find that if you want. Just something to consider.
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Toto, CD,- RN, CGC

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Barked: Thu May 24, '12 6:49pm PST 
I was told the main reason to wait those two or more months after heat, before spaying is that any dog that ovulates (normally, MOST all dogs), will experience a certain degree of false pregnancy and spaying during that time is more risky due to the increased blood flow to the uterus causing more blood vessels having to be found and tied off, with a greater risk of excessive bleeding resulting.
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Bruno CGC

Honorary Kelpie
 
 
Barked: Fri May 25, '12 10:30am PST 
some other signs of an estrus (heat) are moodiness, increased clinginess, excessive vocalizing, "forgetting" commands previously learned... I think it messes with their minds. smile

Experienced vets can certainly spay an in-heat female, even a pregnant one. Shelter vets do it all the time. But I wouldn't recommend it unless you don't have other options, because it's a little riskier (increased risk of excessive bleeding, since the tissues are swollen) and it usually costs more. Plus, if you spay an in-heat female, she will still be attractive to males who will try to mate her for several days, and if one succeeds that could cause a serious infection.

Most authorities now recommend spaying before the first heat just because it's simpler all around- no waiting, and no need to manage during a heat cycle, which can be a real pain. 6 months is a little young for a first heat, but it happens. Best Friends Animal Society is now pushing pet owners to spay at FOUR months instead, which I think is a little excessive, but pretty much guaranteed to prevent pregnancy at least.
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Dora

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Barked: Fri May 25, '12 10:48am PST 
At just six months, it's unlikely that she's had her first heat.

If she has, though, it's not that big a deal. There are pluses and minuses to spaying at all, in health terms, and some of those risks go up while others go down if the dog goes through heat first.

Also, of course, if she has, there's nothing you can do about it now, and there's no reason not to spay her if you want her spayed.

The big reason to spay before the first heat is that then you don't have to go through a heat with your dog. Some keep themselves cleaner than others--Dora kept herself quite clean and only needed panties for a few days (and only because she sleeps on my bed, really.) Some are more persistent than others in trying to get out and find a male dog to mate with (Dora was a real challenge.)

But one of the advantages of a heat is that it's the sex hormones that close the growth plates in the long bones, and that makes for denser bones and stronger joints. For an active dog like a beagle, I think that's a real plus.

But, on balance, the real question is whether you feel comfortable going through a heat. If you do, none of the reasons against outweigh the reasons for it enough to be the decisive factor, If you don't, none of the reasons for it outweigh the fact that you don't feel comfortable doing that. Pregnancy is a health risk, too, and if your circumstances or your experience are such that you don't think it's a good idea, talk to your vet about when he/she feels is a good time to spay her, and do it.
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Jaguar

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Barked: Fri May 25, '12 11:41am PST 
Okay, I give up. it kept truncating my post. >.>

I think you should wait until after their first heat before spaying. =/ Haven't heard anything specific about beagles though, sorry.

My post was going to quote an informative article with research, but it kept cutting it short. >=(

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Luna (Lovegood)

Bay All Day
 
 
Barked: Fri May 25, '12 12:01pm PST 
Thanks for all the info everyone. You have given me some important thoughts to consider.

My only worry is her someday wondering away and coming home pregnant. Now I am a very very responsible dog owner. None of my dogs are EVER outside unattended and they are never ever allowed to roam free. I don't have a fenced in yard so I have a couple cable runs and I use those and leashes for potty breaks/outside time.....

But as we all know accidents can/will happen and I just worry that someday she may bolt out the door and come back preggers. Though I am working on her door manners and her recall is surprisingly really good for a beagle.

So I have decided that I will put off on the spaying until I do more research and I will just be extra vigilant with her training and outside time.

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Fritz

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Barked: Sat May 26, '12 7:59am PST 
Tipper, Tiger, Phooka, Granny were all spayed somewhere between six months and a year. They all did fine. I have heard that it can be beneficial to wait until after the 1st heat, however it isn't that much of a difference and has to be weighed against the difficulty of trying to take care of a dog in heat.

Butch went in heat a week after she was taken in. She was kept safe but the effort and mess was considerable. (2 male dogs lived in the house at the time)

Personally, I would just go ahead and have her fixed. We all work and I wouldn't be comfortable leaving an in heat dog alone during the day.
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Foxxy

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Barked: Sat May 26, '12 6:33pm PST 
the major reason the vets give is actually due to breast cancer in the female dogs and as always the risk of pyometria. Wit the first heat the infection chance is super slim, but apparently the breast cancer risk is higher if you wait for the spaying.

i think it's probably safe enough to go at least one heat. Just be sure to have the doggie diapers ready. Foxxy was spayed after we got her, and that was after her puppy was old enough to be weaned, we don't see any troubles apart from her still liking to hump the duck slipper at any chance. It might be just a chihuahua thing, and slightly embarassing when there is company around, but other dogs I have had have not had that sort of itch to scratch and they were all spayed before first heat.
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Shiver Me- Timbers- "Charlie"

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Barked: Sat May 26, '12 8:07pm PST 
I'll honestly say I've never owned a FEMALE Beagle before, but I do own a male who is and has been kept intact quite successfully. I also run cable runs for him because I have no fenced yard either, but he's NEVER outside alone, EVER, so if he ever has any inkling of a chance to escape, he can't, because I'll be there the moment he attempts it. I've also never heard of 'beagles especially' needing to be spayed before their first heat and I'd actually leave spaying or neutering until after physical maturity if I were to do it.

I've had Charlie also successfully in a house that had two intact females, another intact male and a spayed female and he got along perfectly with all of them and we just kept them separated(completely, never around each other at all and doing rotations while one of the females was in heat/around her heat cycle to prevent pregnancy), so I don't personally see any problems with keeping her intact until a certain age - preferably physical maturity, unless of course, complications or health problems dictate otherwise.
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