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Vaccine mistake at vet in 3 pound puppy??? Help!

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Grace

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Barked: Fri Mar 16, '12 1:57pm PST 
I picked up Grace & Gus's copies of their records. I didn't get actual copies in the vet's handwriting (which is in their file), I got the print out version that they enter in to the computer.

This means I did not get the little stickers for the vaccinations - only explanation of what vaccinations - no serial numbers or brands or anything. I don't totally understand that, but moving on...

So on 3/8 when she went in for her 3rd puppy shots it says:

Treatments: Deworming 0.23 cc PO (by mouth) and DA2PP SQ right shoulder and bordetella SQ right hind

When I took her in that Saturday 3/10 the vet who was working (not our usual) pulled her file to look at all she had done on 3/8 and then in her comments on 3/10 wrote:

"Discussed possibility of a vaccine reaction since she did have a new vaccine at last visit - INTRANASAL BORDETELLA"


I'd think this was a typo, perhaps (would still be concerned), except that our usual vet argued with me yesterday that Grace received the Intranasal, and not the injection.

She was pointing to stickers, but kept them away and I couldn't read what they said. I'm not sure if the Intranasal sticker is identical to the Injection sticker (Bordetella) or not. But they were 2 sets of the same stickers - One set being the DA2PP.

But on the bottom of the sheet it did say Grace received the injection in her hind leg. But vet was adamant that Grace and the intranasal until she read the notes. And I was in the room when she gave her the injection in her back leg.

So now I'm worried.... With the symptoms that started shortly after her vaccination - the vomiting, lethargy, loss of appetite, temp fluctuations.... I'm worried they made a mistake.

*Will clarify - I'm worried that Grace was INJECTED with the Intranasal Bordetella. And in my earlier post about Grace feeling poorly, Chance copied this:

"This is the info from an intranasal bordetella vaccine (Merck Intra-TracĀ®-II ADT):
"Systemic reactions resulting from inadvertent intramuscular or subcutaneous injection have been reported. Symptoms may include vomiting, diarrhea, lethargy, inappetence, jaundice and death associated with liver failure. Localized tissue necrosis at the injection site has also been reported. If inadvertent injection occurs, monitor the dog closely. Supportive therapy including IV fluids and treatment with gentamicin, tetracycline, trimethoprim/sulfa or amoxicillin/clavulanic acid may be indicated. If anaphylactoid reaction occurs, use epinephrine.""

Grace has been vomiting, lethargic, and has no appetite since receiving her vaccines last Thursday.

If I take her to another vet - wouldn't they get the same copies? Not the ones with all the stickers which they would need to be able to tell if it was truly an error?

How do I approach this with my vet?

Edited by author Fri Mar 16, '12 2:22pm PST

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Trixie

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Barked: Fri Mar 16, '12 2:02pm PST 
I am not sure exactly what you are asking. Are you wondering if your dog received the same vaccine twice?

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Grace

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Barked: Fri Mar 16, '12 2:19pm PST 
I think they mixed up the vaccines and she was INJECTED with the Intranasal Bordetella instead of the Injectable Bordetella.

I know she GOT a Bordetella vaccine that day. But according to her file outside of the note that she recieved it in her right hind - it says she only got the intranasal.

So I'm thinking it was a mistake, not that she was double vaccinated, but that the vaccines got mixed up.

Not sure how to approach my vet on this.
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Chance

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Barked: Fri Mar 16, '12 2:46pm PST 
I would go back to the vet and demand to see the chart that has the stickers on them.

When I've gotten copies of Chance's records, they have included a copy of any pages with the vaccine/medication stickers on them.

The intranasal bordetella vaccine is a modified live virus and will say something like that somewhere on the sticker.
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Bianca CGC- TT HIC Thd- ♥

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Barked: Fri Mar 16, '12 3:27pm PST 
I would firmly request a copy of the dog's file. I don't understand why they didn't give you that, when we ask for vet records they always make copies of the actual files, not just print out the stuff from the computer.
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Tyler

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Barked: Fri Mar 16, '12 3:28pm PST 
I agree with Chance, i'd be heading straight back to my vet and asking for clarification. If this is a mix up on their part i'd be looking for a new vet too.
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Grace

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Barked: Fri Mar 16, '12 3:46pm PST 
We already have Grace scheduled to see a new vet.

They said the vet only authorized the copies we got. And these were copies I'd asked for to take to a Specialist, so another doctor. But I got these watered down cmputer files.

Her actual file has writing and stickers in it.

If the new vet calls them - they will fax over the same records. Because they were going to fax these, but I told them I was planning to hand deliver them. They were ready right away so I know these are what they were going to fax to the specialist.

Sadly I might have to send my mom in to be more aggressive (nicely, but firm) with them and get the actual records.

I've tried calling - the front desk says, "I will get that message to the tech/vet" If I ask to speak to them right then I'm told they can't and someone will call me back. No one has called back.

They are an hour away. I'll be over there tomorrow I will stop in and get actual copies of real records.
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Shandi *Oct- 2006 - Aug 2012*

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Barked: Fri Mar 16, '12 6:26pm PST 
I find it strange that they dont seem to want to give you the actual records. I didnt think they could withhold things like that. I guess it works different in the states because here we have vaccination cards that the animal has their whole life and everytime they get a vaccine the stickers are put straight on it not in some file. So we have the card for their whole life and no matter which vet you go to or if you move you always have the records on you. Maybe they know they made a mistake which is why it's being difficult to get the right copies?
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Grace

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Barked: Fri Mar 16, '12 7:42pm PST 
Maybe frown

Not understanding what is in the file that I can't have? They are my dogs....

It's not like human patient confidentiality. I should be able to get copies of the original records.
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Wyatt

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Barked: Fri Mar 16, '12 8:14pm PST 
I don't understand what in that file is not yours. I know in people nurses notes are off limits but anything else is yours to see. I would demand to see it. I sure hope they did not give your tiny dog 2 of the same vaccines and I would be looking for a different vet for sure.
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