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Vet taking dog in the back rom for exam

  
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Uno

~cold nose, warm- heart ~
 
 
Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 5:58am PST
Whats up with that? Uno is absolutely terrified of going to the vet, therefore I avoid it except for the necessary things like heartworm testing and rabies once every 3 years. The clinic that I is a bit impersonal, they have several vets and seem to ignore any sort of suggestion I have ( like if I suspected the dog to have an allergy to something, they dismissed it).
To give him vaccines and give him an exam they muzzle him and take him in the back room, of course he panics and they have to drag him out. Its extremely distressing to him and I wonder what is it that they do back there that I cant see?
I mean I sort of undestand that some owners may become too emotional when their dog is receiving a shot, but I'm not one of those people. I've heard some horror stories of dogs being kicked or worse behind the doors and it makes me uneasy.

Should I switch the vet?
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Jovi, NPC,- CEGE

I will miss you- Duke!!!
 
 
Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 6:03am PST
If you and Uno are not comfortable with this I would switch vets. I always go in to the exam room with Jovi.
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Mr.- BoJangles

Behaving doesn't- always work for- me
 
 
Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 6:07am PST
If you're not comfortable with the vet you should. Very rarely does my vet take my dogs away from me, but if they felt they needed to, I would allow it. I do most of the holding of my dogs unless it is something major like a blood draw or nail trims and at that point a tech comes in.

I will say Bo used to be terrified of going to the vet. He would shake, shoot anal glands, scream, run, anything to get away. I tried to avoid the vet with him as much as possible, but I realized it wasn't helping him to get used to the process. So, monthly he went in for nail trims. At this point I will say he is comfortable with most things being done to him, but nail trims are still "blah" for both of us. They will muzzle him and they do take him in the back for it, but I can hear what is going on and usually he does his little "Yip" that he does when he wants a cookie and the techs are laughing hysterically, so I am sure they aren't hurting him. But now we can look in his ears and do basics on him and he doesn't squirt anal glands anymore.

If it were me and the vet made me and the dog uncomfortable to the point of not getting in at least once a year for a physical, I would change. Good luck.
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Titus

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 6:42am PST
Yeah, if neither of you are comfortable with your vet, switch. You should feel at ease with your vet - you don't have to have a coffee with him/her, but he's the medical lifeline between you and your dog, and you should be able to converse in a relaxed manner. If you're confused and nervous, your dog feels it too.
I don't know what's up with the "back room" exam... if it's just a regular exam, you should be able to go back there too. My dogs are only in back if they're post-op or have been kennelled.

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Jessica CGC

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 7:05am PST
Oh yeah if you're avoiding it only because of how they reinforce Uno's fear, definately new vet, I believe vets and owners should have a good rapport for the best care. But Uno is going to have the same fears at the next vet because that's the pattern so I'd work on classical conditioning him to like the new vets starting in the parking lot with lots of treats then leaving, build up to the appointment and treating inside also.
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Birdie

Everything's- better with dog- hair in it!
 
 
Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 7:12am PST
Although I don't agree with it, I think they remove the dog from the room because, believe it or not, most dogs behave MUCH better when the owner is not there.(but I think that decision should be left up to the owner) Then there is less man handeling, and the dog won't associate owner with the bad experience.

One vet I worked at, would wrap tape around every dogs muzzleeek (If the owner was not present)and then rip it off when he was finished! OUCH THe thing was, we HAD muzzles!! I hated that. I didn't last long there!!

I would ask that you get to stay with him for general exams and vaccs--if they won't let you, than I would leave ASAP!

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Maggie

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 8:03am PST
I am not sure why a vet would need to take any dog to the "back room" for a routine exam and shots. Every vet I have been to has always done this in the examination room with me there. An exam should be done with the owner in the room so that the vet can ask questions and answers any questions that the client may have. This is the only way you can build a relationship with your vet.

As for the "back room", I have been allowed in the back room many times to help with x-rays (help hold the dog), review x-rays and, when Maggie broke her foot I often went to the back with her to hold her when they were changing her splint.

Your relationship with your vet should be one with a lot of trust involved on your part. If you do not feel comfortable with your vet, it may be time to look around for a new vet. Get recommendations from other in your area- ask at grooming places, doggie daycares, etc., as these businesses often hear the "good and bad" from their clients.
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Bingley

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 8:16am PST
If you aren't comfortable with it , get a new vet for sure. I never understand a vet not having you in the room with your animal. My vet has me in the room with Bingley during the exam. When he gets shots, the tech will take him out, and the vet uses that time for me to ask any more questions, then they bring him back in as soon as he's done getting his shot.

If he's only getting a shot, and not an exam, the tech will just come into the waiting room, and take Bingley back, give him the shot, and take him back out to me in the waiting room. But, whenever the vet is seeing him, I go back with him.

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Chibi

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 8:30am PST
It may be case by case, and it sounds like it's not working well in your case.

But there are many cases when the dogs do better when the owners are not around. The dogs get more afraid, defensive, protective etc, when the owners are around sometimes-- especially if we are nervous or expecting our dogs to react badly.

I didn't believe it until I saw it with our chow mix. One vet took her to the back to do something to her (I forgot what it was). I was so sure they'll need a muzzle for her because she gets very nasty. But to our surprise she behaved!! I just peeked through a small window and saw her behaving without a muzzle. We didn't want her to see us or she would start acting out so we quietly left the area.

But, it doesn't always work like this and if you are uncomfortable with it (and it sounds like it's obviously not working well) then I would switch vets. Or talk to them and see if it's something they can change?
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Grace

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Barked: Sat Nov 7, '09 8:45am PST
The only time we do this is when we have dogs we know behave better without the owner. However, if this is the case many of the owners volunteer to sit out front and chat with the receptionist while we stay in the room and finish up.

There is one particular dog who if he comes in with the woman owner, I immediately go in and take him from her. The dog will get so nervous that he (at 85 pounds) will start climbing on the woman and will tear her to shreds. He will continue to try and climb on the counter, onto chairs and literally up the wall and on shelves while panting, pacing and going absolutely insane. The lady thinks it's funny but I certainly do not. In the room he must be muzzled or you'll lose a finger and you risk throwing your back out or getting a toenail in the eye (one of my worst fears) with him flailing around and bucking. From time to time she also brings her one year old little girl, and the dog is so irrational and freaked out in the room that I often worry about her safety, too. (He does not behave like this for the husband, and their other dog doesn't behave like this, either.) However, outside of ther room, away from her, he is calm and collected and we're able to examine him without even a muzzle on while standing on the floor well-behaved. Afterwards, I even bring him outside and wait for her to be invoiced out. I don't want her, her baby, me, my boss or any other client or their animals getting injured by him while he's there.
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