|Tiller- (Skansen's- Ira in the M|
I DO Exist...To- Drive You Batty
|Barked: Fri May 10, '13 2:19pm PST |
|A lot of breeds with splits still have do it all breeders, but here's the difference:
Working dogs can be REALLY different from titling dogs. The subject of vigor, and that can both an emotional vigor and a physical vigor, come into play. So I think if you want a WORKING dog, then that's really where you need to go. Whereas if what you want is a "hobby" dog, then dual breeders may often be best, particularly if in the "pet first" realm. If your dog is a pet first and foremost...the rest being what you "hope" for, but it's not the end of the world, vs some uber bent dog who is eating your walls and staring at the door quivering all day being viewed as the greater disaster....then you should be with someone more dual who has a pet sensibility.
A lot of these debates get so stupid, IMO. I know with GSDs, where I have the most experience, I sometimes hear debates with "working" people who have never worked dogs...I mean WORKED...and or those who say their dogs come from "working lines" when basically, no, they come from sport lines, or what is now simply vestiges of working lines. I had a GSD from working lines...like REAL working lines, papa was a border patrol guard and momma was a working herding bitch. Both had titles too, but they were working dogs. Pogo remains a dog I revere, but I couldn't call him a pet. He didn't like cookies, wouldn't relish a game of fetch, was far from a couch snuggle and while noble and kind, was 100% serious, 100% of the time. Absolutely a dog for me, but he wasn't a pet.
Chester is a lot the same, but his life stinks more. He's a Cocker, working bred, and I had this concept that bred for work would make him be an even better OB dog and so on. But no....what he wants to do is HUNT. He was about seven when I first took him, FIRST took him, to a major woodsy hunting spot. Not with the intent to hunt (I won't), but it is where we ended up, and all of a sudden my dog of many years turned into something entirely different and went into these realms of passion, joy, bravado and, dare I say it, ecstasy.
And that was a downer moment for me, really. Pogo worked out fine. He was working (PPD), and also was a very tending dog so had his kittens to look after and such. But Chester had this soulful sort of desire I couldn't really answer near as much, and it wasn't until I saw it that I faced the rant Trigger often goes on on this forum....what he was stuck with vs what he was bred for (and what made his heart soar), were really different things. I certainly trained, worked a lot with him, we did a lot of things together....but that was not hunting, and that was a BIG difference.
A lot of Lab people I know who do hunt go to dual breeders, so they have a nice pet, and when they want to go out and hunt or work on a title they have the dog they need, but all the other time, which is the overwhelming amount of time they spend, they are very content to be pets. Perhaps they would come up short with a hardcore hunter, but they are a hobbyist dog with a hobbyist hunter, and it works better.
My advice is to always be real. Prioritize what you intend to do....the most important at the top, the least likely at the bottom. Then you will know where you need to go. Don't listen to anyone babbling on about splits. This is about you and your life, what matters to you and what you are a million percent certain you can offer a dog, vs what on your list is an intention or hope, but you can't swear on it. You want the dog to suit you. You want the breeder who produces that dog. End of story.
Edited by author Fri May 10, '13 2:22pm PST
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