true origins of the Carolina Dog breed

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Barked: Thu Sep 24, '09 5:41pm PST 
Carolina Dogs are typical pariah morphotypic dogs of mixed ancestry. There is very little evidence (genetic or otherwise) to connect them with the ancient aboriginal dogs of the SE US. The original testing performed in the late '90s ( I was working with Dr. Brisbin and others at the time) was, at best, inconclusive--showing that some Carolina Dogs tested could be grouped with other primitive dog breeds/types. But so can Chows, Huskies, German Shepherds and other domestic breeds that probably went into several strains of registered "purebred" Carolina dog bloodlines. All these breeds have been, at one time or other, extremely popular, with many of each breed most likely discarded or turned loose when they proved to be too much to handle. These strays (those who survived) would then be free to mix into the general stray/pariah/feral dog population of remote, rural areas.I know firsthand of registered Carolina Dogs with long coats and blue eyes--obvious evidence of possible recent husky/chow influence.

Carolina Dogs are basically populations of dogs of European (domestic) descent who have, over successive generations, and through the process of natural selection, reverted back to a primitive behavioral/morphological/ecologicaI phenotype. These dogs would be physically similar, or possibly identical to the aboriginal dogs present prior to European settlement (though not genetically related), due to both being created through the pressures of natural selection. The Carolina Dog would represent domestication in reverse. This would be a situation where a completely domesticated animal would have fled to the wilds/semiwilds of the rural SE US to evolve as a completely new type (breed) free of direct human intervention and/or supervision. Those domestic physical and behavioral traits not suited for survival in the wild would have been selected against and removed from the gene pool. This would represent a reemergence of the "original dog type" which first emerged over 12,000 years ago. Such pariah types exist all over the world and are by no means unique. Technically, a "Carolina Dog" would be a dog born from UKC/ARBA registered parents--a pedigreed dog or one allowed into the breeding program by Dr. Brisbin or his associates. In other words, the Carolina Dog "breed" was created from mixed pariah dog stock taken from the rural SE US and turned into a registered breed--just like the Canaan Dog, the Telomian, the Basenji, the Santal Hound, etc. in other parts of the world.
'Augie' the- Carolina Dog

Born To Run
Barked: Thu Nov 12, '09 12:30pm PST 
Thank you for this synopsis. Ever since my CD came to live with me, I have been researching them. I started with Dr. Brisbin and his work that was published in National Geographic News. I found a few other documentations but not many. I have viewed dogs at the local animal rescue sites and have found several that developed definate CD traits, such as flexible back bone and the turned paw,"prance" walk, like a cat, that my CD has. There are still wild dogs in the northern Everglades of S.W. Florida, but the large packs were decimated by the cattle ranchers. The animal control agencies of Collier County, Fl., have posted reports of wild Carolina dog packs. Unfortunately mostly in negatve ways. The true CD's were mostly adopted when they became too stressed to live in the wild anymore, like mine . They seem to be received well by people when they have achieved the true Carolina Dog appearance. Probably due to human acceptance of that physicality and not otherwise.

This was evident from the many CD's I observed in peoples cars and the two from my CD's pack that were adopted by neighbors around the same time my CD came to live with me. They must all love to ride in the car as much as mine and he will insist when he senses that I am going to drive, which always happens before I pick up the keys. This is just one example of thier superior communication skills, the "signal flag" tail is another that I learned to read.

Therefore, " the True Origins article fits my observations and research. It is the first time I have found a correlation even though it is really inconclusive without DNA analysis, my observations have led me to conclude that there may have been original species dogs living here in the Everglades, away from populated areas. They can move through the dense foliage with ease and you would not see or hear them due to thier advanced hunting skills. They are like ghosts and I have observed the Coyotes here and in up state New York move the same way.

The case I make is that while horse back riding with a groupe of about twenty, a large Coyote pranced across the trail we were following in a dense forest in the up state New York area I mentioned. No one saw him except me. Not even the trained cowboy, who was escorting us, was aware of his presance.

My point is the wild canines know how to stay elusive. This was also proved by a study done in the suburbs of Chicago by Discovery Channel of packs of wild dogs that were decendants of feral, abandoned dogs. By the fourth generation, all domestic characteristics had been lost in favor of more wolf like physicalities. They thrived on scavaging and hunting small animals, yes, pets as well as squirrels etc. They too stayed away from populated areas and shunned people.

Since my CD portrays so many wild skills, I would like to find out if I could submit my CD for breeding since his demeanor has always been submissive towards people, even before he came into my home. His characteristics and coloration fit the official discription exactly.

My main interest is to preserve the lineage of true Carolina Dogs.

Barked: Sat Oct 9, '10 3:19pm PST 
What a delight to finally find out what breed Gucci is! I've had lots of folks suggest various breeds but today I finally heard about the "Carolina Dog." I'm pretty sure she's one of the best examples of the standard except her overall color is white with large tan spots and distinctive face. She has a great life accompanying me everywhere... and especially loves to bound through the woods when I go bushwhacking in my moss rescue efforts. She epitomizes that dog that you wait all your life to have as your companion. She is so bright and knows how to behave... like Lassie.

She has many natural hunting instincts including being a natural pointer and excellent swimmer.

Her body reflects the breed standard with agility, strength and lean muscle. Her chest is larger and she's got the flexible back (you should see some of her extreme contorted positions). She has the curved tail that always is erect.

Her coat is thick and SOFT. She has thick, loose folds of skin around her neck. Yet, it is amazing how filthy she can get and then minutes later the dirt is gone. Her white fur seems to repel dirt... thank goodness.

Her ears usually are perked straight up (never tip) but she sometimes lays them down depending on her mood - begging for food or sorry when scolded.

She LOVES to ride in my mossin' truck and anticipates any movement in that direction. She sits in the front seat with her arm (I mean leg) perched on the armrest. She also loves to hang out the window. We can be seen riding around together and bring smiles to everybody.

No leash is necessary Because she listens and will come back unless obsessing about a critter. In contrast, she really doesn't mind the leash at all if we are in a public place where it is required.

She is EXTREMELY FRIENDLY and great with kids and all people. She's majorly loyal but might follow someone home or jump in a car with them if given a chance.

She gets along with other dogs and cats... obsessing over my kitty, Ziggy. Occasionally, little dogs get on her nerves and she growls at them. When around a puppy, she steps in like a Mommy Dog and mothers them, teaching them doggy ways. Of course, the shelter made us have her spayed which is a shame. The world deserved more little Gucci's.

She barks like a watch dog! Yeah! She barks to say "hello" to other dogs passing by in a public venue... not so good when your friends are playing music on stage.

I wish I could say she never gets into any mischief but she does like to chew... strong separation anxiety if left at home... and she's damaged some valuable handmade cherry furniture. Also, she sometimes digs holes in my moss garden. BAD DAWG!

Overall though, Gucci is my favorite dog of all time. If she really is a Carolina dog... and we live in the mountains of western North Carolina where we got her from a rescue center last May, then I highly recommend this breed. She is the BEST dog ever!