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"Chucking" a dog?

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Sarah,- CW-SR,- CW-G1, CGC

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Barked: Sun Dec 4, '11 10:50am PST 
What is "chucking" a dog? I am assuming it does not mean throwing...

A friend of mine was advised to "chuck" her dog for misbehaving... The advice was followed by a sermon on how dogs want to be the alpha and life with dogs is a constant power struggle.
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Ellie

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Barked: Sun Dec 4, '11 11:12am PST 
If I say I am going to chuck something I might mean throw out or get rid of. That seems extreme for a misbehaving dog to me but the way it was followed by sayIng life with a dog is a power struggle maybe thus what they meant thinking
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Sarah,- CW-SR,- CW-G1, CGC

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Barked: Sun Dec 4, '11 11:18am PST 
Ok a friend of mine found out what it is. Apparently you "chuck" a dog under the chin. Kind of like how sometimes guys punch their friends in the arm.

I guess it's a nice way of saying "hitting" your dog...naughty
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Zephyr

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Barked: Sun Dec 4, '11 11:32am PST 
That's not technically what it means. It's supposed to be a tap under the chin though I've never heard it in reference to a dog.
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Titus

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Barked: Sun Dec 4, '11 11:47am PST 
A "chuck under the chin" used to be a kind of demonstration of affection (usually from a man to women and children)... I have no idea what they're referring to as regards to dogs shrug
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Sarah,- CW-SR,- CW-G1, CGC

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Barked: Sun Dec 4, '11 12:09pm PST 
I got the info from a book by Steven Applebaum, president of the Animal Behavior College. I found a book of his online that said "chucking" is basically a polite way of saying slapping.
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Bruno CGC

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Barked: Sun Dec 4, '11 11:12pm PST 
I think the Monks of New Skete used to recommend the chin chuck thing as a disciplinary measure. Never read it myself though, might not be in the new edition (like "alpha rolling"- they don't recommend it anymore.)
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Zephyr

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Barked: Sun Dec 4, '11 11:20pm PST 
"These methods involve touching the dog in some, often forceful, way. The Monks of New Skete (their books are highly recommended) talk about chucking a biting dog under the chin with 2-3 fingers (never a fist, always an open hand). This simulates an Alpha dog (that's you) nipping a misbehaving dog under the chin, as occurs in a pack."

Ten points for Bruno. The 'Monks of New Skete' it is. It's interpretable I guess and while I don't use their overall alpha method I think there's a difference between slapping a dog and "chucking" under the chin which I think should be a tap given what I've seen of their methods. I think they have toned down the public approach because it's been so misused and incorrectly used. I would avoid all advice from that person from now on.

Frankly I don't give a biter a chance to bite my fingers if I can avoid it so that's not my method of choice. If I'm going to touch a biter at all my hand is always in a fist since they're much less likely to bite and will do a heck of a lot less damage if they do. Easier to redirect a dog (who is biting for fun and amusement rather than seriously) than correct usually.

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Lucille

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Barked: Mon Dec 5, '11 6:58am PST 
I've read the term in some really old breed books. I'm not sure where it originated, but from what I gather, it's like a small slap to the side of the bottom part of the jaw. That's why they say 'chuck the chin'. It wasn't pictured, so I can't be sure, ofcourse. I wouldn't advocate for its use as a punishment, either.

It can be roughly affectionate, I've seen it used in rough play between some old breeder/trainers and hunting dogs. Sort of like how some dogs love having their beards tugged in play.
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Trigger

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Barked: Mon Dec 5, '11 8:10am PST 
"It can be roughly affectionate, I've seen it used in rough play between some old breeder/trainers and hunting dogs."

Never heard it labeled but I see the above all the time. Do it myself on occasion.

Has nothing to do with discipline in the context I know it, is merely done to amp up drive in work and play.
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