January 19th 2012 9:08 am
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So we went to training last night. When we arrived there was a new dog running around. He was a 1 yo male golden. He was nuts. I mean, running around, crashing into everyone and everything. He was all of 80 pounds if not more. I was hesitant and let Grunt go play. Well then his girlfriend Ella a 10 mo golden came in and Grunt was playing nicely. Well the male got overly excited and the next thing you know Grunt is growling and showing teeth. Nutso didn't get the hint and Grunt pinned him to the ground. Not once but 4 times. On the 4th time Grunt got sprayed with citronella from the trainer. He immediately got off and I called him over to me. He came, shaking his head from the spray. After that he tolerated the male. Even did a little play with him. The male - thankfully got the hint and calmed down considerably.
I've got loads of problems with this whole situation. When I took Turner to class it was walk your dog, potty outside and go to your place. No sniffing, no playing it was training time. So this concept is new to me.
Next, while this male was slamming people and dogs nobody, besides me, was watching him. From all of the years of watching everything around me for Turner I'm like a hawk and can't help it.
The owner of the dog was quick to tell us that he was one of the trainers "private session" dogs. That it took her 20 minutes on her first visit to get him to sit once. THEN, the owner told us that their walker hadn't show up and he had loads of energy to burn.
Now, today, Grunt is extremely quiet. I know it's not me who noticed - even Darcy is keeping her distance from him.
We went for a walk this morning and he was mousing along the road and sniffing up a storm. We're going to do our training like we have been, but I think the pre-class playtime is out for us. I don't like having Grunt put in a situation that he may fail. That defeats the entire purpose of training in my eyes.
Funny thing is, after training I left Grunt play with Ella and they had a blast. So no what? Do I treat him like he's reactive? Do I ignore it all and let it go? I've never been in this situation before and it just plain sucks... God I miss Turner so bad...
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that does suck why would Grunt be the one sprayed when clearly the other dog was out of control from the beginning. I can't really give alot of advice as it has been some yrs since I've even taken a dog to training classes. Good Luck and I hope Grunt is ok.
Grunt got sprayed because it was his mouth around the golden.
When I went to class we didn't have play time. The trainer didn't want us to associate class and those in it with play. We were there to focus and learn.
I know everything will be okay.
I think that Grunt was only reacting to an out of control dog. I don't believe he is a "reactive" dog. You've never written about him acting this way with other dogs.
It would be wise to be aware of how Grunt MAY react to a rambunctious out of control dog but don't be too concerned about it.
I feel your pain actually.
Monty is my first dog so I took him to training classes and the trainer I picked let all of the dogs play off leash. Well Monty as a puppy was very vocal and because of that he got singled out a lot. He would make a grunt and the trainer would pretty much pounce on him and pin him down. Well after she did it twice I quit letting him play. He graduated puppy classes and moved onto intermediate classes with the same trainer and the whole class stayed together. Well they all let their dogs off of their leash I kept Monty on his and there was a new lab in the class that was crazy. She ran at the Wolfhound and pinned her and then snapped at Monty. Monty reacted and the trainer again flipped him and pinned him for it.
My last straw was advance training, Monty just whined she took the leash from me had him in a corner he was scared and he bit her. Her reaction was to stab him with a pen. After that she wanted to muzzle him and she put it on him. It ruined him. It has taken me so long to get his confidence back up and have him learn to trust strangers and strange dogs again.
So when I put Missy through training I used a different trainer who didn't believe in playing off leash before class. Class is for training and not for play, playing is something you do at the dog park or at home. It worked out well for Missy and what I learned from that trainer helped Monty out too.
My advice is to skip the off leash play time. I think right now Grunt is just upset and nervous. I know that after Monty was muzzled he lacked confidence and it showed. So Grunt might be feeling that same way. Once you get his confidence back up he will be back to his normal self hopefully.
Wow Monty! I would never let anyone pin him... Ever! I agree, I think the nutso dog just got on his (and everyone elses) nerves. I was leary about the playtime in the first place. We will show up for the class and that's it. I think, if I put him in another class I'll find another trainer. I'm not too impressed with this one. Most likely I'll just do what I know (which is more than this one knows) and live our lives. Only 4 more classes left. The funny thing is he's so far ahead of the game in training already. He will sit/stay and I can walk away/leave the room and he stays. Totally shocked the trainer.
Lil' Bear I agree, the dog was getting on all of our nerves. Grunt was just the one who didn't put up with it. I was shocked though I figured the owner would at least try to settle him or remove him but nope she just ignored him - part of the reason he's nuts! :(
Thanks Caileigh! I think (hope) he'll be alright. He did play later in the night with the female there with no problem.
It sounds to me like you have a bad trainer. Why didn't the trainer stop the behavior before it got out of hand? I question why the trainer would allow the other dog to come to her class when she knew it had issues.
Momma tried to take me to training class once and the trainer asked us to leave because I was too scared. Instead the trainer came to our house and worked with me privately (Coco stood by and laughed or showed off when commands were given).
There are all kinds of different methods of training and not all may be suitable for everyone. I would ask for a refund on the remainder of the classes and find someone else for the training.
We're not going to quit. But we're not going to the play sessions. I know what I need to do for training, so I'll just show up ready to train. If she asks why I don't participate in playtime I will be more than happy to tell her why...