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This forum is for dog lovers seeking everyday advice and suggestions on health-related issues. Remember, however, that advice on a public forum simply can't be a substitute for proper medical attention. Only your vet can say assuredly what is best for your dog.

  
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Hunter

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Barked: Thu Nov 8, '12 10:34pm PST 
My 5 month old yorkie fell off the couch while tangled in her blanket and she fell pretty hard. She is walking fine but is letting out the odd yelp. Almost like it could be in the joint. Any suggestions?
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MIKA&KAI

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Barked: Fri Nov 9, '12 6:35am PST 
Take her to the vet and have it checked would be my suggestion. I do not own little dogs but know quite a few people who do and at times something like a small fall can cause a more serious injury than you suspect. If you don't want to take her to the vet right away,you can try crate rest and see if it helps until you can get her there.wishes
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Barked: Fri Nov 9, '12 12:14pm PST 
Hunter, sounds like you hurt your back.
the best thing is bed rest. that means being crated and not moving a muscle except for pottying.
it is really boring but back injuries are no joke.
keep an eye on your appetite..if it diminishes at all then you should see the vet. otherwise, see how you feel after a few days of crate jail.
you could take one half of a BABY aspirin for the pain and inflamation. (NOT ibuprofen or tylenol!)
you can build a ramp with scrap wood and staple on it a rug for traction to get up and down off the couch. also stay off the stairs or make someone carry you.
click here to go to dodgerslist, the bible of healing back injuries
be sure to rest now, that is the key to healing up the quickest!
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Kali

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Barked: Fri Nov 9, '12 4:17pm PST 
I agree with Mika & Kai. You need to take her to the vet. Please keep us posted.
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Barked: Sat Nov 10, '12 2:34am PST 
the vet won't do anything but poke around and then prescribe steroids and painkillers and bedrest.
that combo does nothing but destroy the dog's organs imo, i have never heard of it working for anyone. (i've been down that road with an old dog..it was torture and useless).
if they go further with xrays or a scan, they might find something damaged, but it is very unlikely the vet would even suggest that as they would have to see a specialist. that would also cost several thousand dollars all told.
at this point, at first injury and as long as the dog is still mobile and not in pain, crate jail is definitely the way to go. don't let hunter walk anywhere, carry her outside to potty and back into her crate.
i wouldn't stop anyone from going to the vet, but it is a waste of money to go for a 'yelp' and progesterone and metacam are killers imo..especially for a 5 month old puppy (not sure that age is correct from your bio?), whose organs are not even completely grown.
back injury is really serious, but complete rest is the first and most effective strategy for recovery. if hunter is in pain, then she should get some pain killers. but it is more likely just painful when left free, not when confined to the crate.
i hope hunter checks back with an update. POTP!
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Koby

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Barked: Sat Nov 10, '12 7:26am PST 
I think a vet visit is still in order. Sometimes short term pain meds and rest will do the trick. If you don't, then if it is an injury, no treatment can make it worse. We went through a similar thing with Koby, only it was his wrist. With vet treatment, he got better. Good Luck!
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Ch. Luke

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Barked: Sat Nov 10, '12 3:09pm PST 
I'm gonna contradict Louie and Nina here. Having dealt with Frenchies since 1980, I need to point out that steroids are a critical component in ANY dog's recovery from a disk/spine issue. Without them, not only does the swelling in the disk not decrease, it actually INCREASES due to the reaction of the nerves and muscles to the pain. If not given immediately, this swelling can and WILL lead to permanent paralysis!!!
There are three critical steps in dealing with spinal injury in dogs (and people, too, I write from experience!!!) The first is steroids... usually injection followed by decreasing oral doses daily. Second is muscle relaxants to relieve the muscle spasms which continue to create swelling (and risk of paralysis), and the third is COMPLETE cage rest. The dog needs to be carried out to relieve itself and carried back inside to the crate. ANY walking carries the risk of permanent paralysis.
Waiting out a suspected spinal or disk injury is playing Russian roulette with your dogs future health...the sooner the steroids are started, the better the chances of complete recovery.
Lukie had about one spinal issue per year. His problem area was a disk in his neck, and his first sign of trouble was to hold one front leg straight out and scream. My vet was so convinced in the IMMEDIATE use of steroids that I always had an injection of dex to give at the first symptom, before I even took him to the vets. His "confinement" was normally three weeks, and fortunately, with this treatment proticol he ALWAYS recovered fully and we were able to avoid surgery.
In my own case, my physican tried several times to treat my back with just muscle relaxants and pain pills. They didn't do a thing, if there was any relief, it was temporary and the pain and numbness of my leg started right up again as soon as I stopped taking them.
With the addition of just TEN DAYS of steroids, I was completely cured until the next time I did something stupid, usually at least a year or more down the road.
Of course, in the case of the OP, NONE of us are vets and we can't even observe the dog so calling a spinal issue is certainly NOT up to us... this dog needs to see a vet immediately, IMO!
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Barked: Sun Nov 11, '12 3:24am PST 
yup Luke, we went down that road with lola..her neck bones had basically disintegrated with age. in retrospect, i feel it was accellerated because she loved to lunge on the leash to greet people and dogs and wore a collar. she also climbed and descended stairs..(going down is so hard on the shoulders and neck).
she went to 4 different local vets and it was always the same treatment: steroids and metacam which imo destroyed her mental acuity and ruined her organs.
there is a huge difference between an oops injury and ivdd as well as the age of the dog as to what treatment is best.
a slip off the couch could mean anything from a torn ligament at one end of the specturm to a ruptured or crushed disc at the other. i think only a scan or xray can definitively decide what happened.
at least that is what all the vets told us and even with xrays, they couldn't say. a scan is several thousand dollars in this area.
our experience with local vets (which seems to be the norm), is they poke around, make tsk tsk sounds and shoot them up with steroids. the common thought is to give it a two week whirl with pills and 'see' whether the dog improves. often times, that two weeks is extended until the dog is on the steroids for a long time. even two weeks is too long imo.
what is interesting is the latest data from the dachshund people show that crate rest alone is more effective than drug plus crate jail.
they are no longer going for the steroid shots and drugs but opting for hydrotherapy and acupuncture following 8 weeks of complete crate jail.
they do offer pain meds if needed but skip the steroids.
the steroids might help the inflamation temporarily (and could just do the trick), but the trade off in organ damage has to be evaluated.
with these little dogs, i will have to be very desperate to consider steroids..i have seen what they do firsthand and read of so many dachshunds who have recovered using complete confinement. the dachshund community has done a 360 on back injury treatment, that's why i linked dodger's list, the testimonials say it all. there are some amazing detailed stories on the dachshund forums as well, many are saying crate jail first then surgery if no results. they are not going down the steroid road anymore.
the latest recall in the news of the humans being injected with tainted steroids just emphasizes my personal hatred for the steroid treatments. if they are so slipshod with humans, i wonder what they are giving the dogs.
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i have such regrets for putting lola through the steroid/metacam treatments, i wish i could turn back the hands of time and save her that degredation.
everyone has to make their own calls, obviously, this is just my personal feelings from both research and personal experience..as a doxie owner, i have tried to be prepared for that awful yelp we all fear in our hearts.
the biggest take away for me after all my research was preventative measures is the best method of avoiding back injury. we use ramps, don't climb stairs or wear collars. we are not allowed to jump down from the furniture.
we stay fit and not overweight.

i dropped hunter a pm yesterday..i hope she updates this thread so we know how she is doing.


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Rosie

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Barked: Sun Nov 11, '12 10:48pm PST 
Sorry I couldn't figure out how to change the picture from Hunter to Rosie. I want to thank everyone for advice. The reason for posting on here was because it was 11:00 P.M. and Rosie was walking fine just letting out a little yelp once in a while without favoring her paws at all. I never post on these forums because I hate it when people insult my intelligence by saying take her to the vet. I just wanted to know if anyone had the same experience that maybe they could offer some advice before I took her to an emergency clinic and dished out BIG BUCKS. Needless to say I put her to bed and she woke up the next morning totally fine and bouncing off the walls as usual. So thanks again to all that replied.smile
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MIKA&KAI

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Barked: Mon Nov 12, '12 6:23am PST 
I'm sorry that you feel that advising you to take your dog to the vet out of concern for her health and safety is an insult to your intelligence. I certainly didn't think you lacked intelligence,I was concerned that your Rosie was seriously injured and simply recommended the best place to find that out for certain. I am glad that just a nights rest solved the issue.
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