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Dog Health > Help!!! MY dog can't walk!!

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Barked: Thu Oct 23, '08 4:19pm PST 
Bisou, Missie just finished 8 weeks of heavy dose doxycyline for tick born lyme disease. We caught it when her symptoms were very mild and just starting, and thank goodness there has been no drama.

If your vet hasn't already done so, I encourage you to get the C6 test done.

This is a paragraph about it. You can read more from the links below: "This is a more advanced test that gives you a baseline reading in units per milliliter of the number of C6 antibodies in your dog's serum sample. Knowing how many antibodies were found when you started treatment gives you a way to determine if treatment has worked when you retest 6 months later. If the number has dropped considerably, IDEXX says by 50%, you can safely assume it has."

We started with the Snap 4, and Missie's levels were so low it gave only a suspicious positive. We had to confirm with an IFA (I think that was the name) from the lab - her uMl was just below 1:256, which meant she was indeed affected, even if only at a low level. We did the C6 after that, and I am glad we did because 5 weeks into treatment we found out her levels had already dropped to 12 U/ml, indicating the treatment was working and her infection was inactive. You can't tell that just from the IFA tests.

Check out these links for some reading. Lyme is so very rare here that my vet was open to taking info. from me about new testing and length of treatment, and I'm glad he was open to that.


http://dogsandtick disease.googlepages.com/tests

Good Luck with Bisou. We found with Miss that the antibiotics helped within 4 days. They did also make her vomit though if her stomach became empty, so she's been open fed and eating heartily for two months while on them. Now we're faced with a diet, cuz she's a bit of a porker.shock
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Choosing the Right Dog > Your "heart breed" - What is it? How did you know?

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Barked: Sun Oct 19, '08 8:52pm PST 
I have to say that I do not have a heart breed . . . but I do have a heart breed type. I love companion spaniel types, they can be mixes or pure as long as that spaniel temperament shines through . . . loving, gentle, biddable, outgoing goofballs.

Tiller, when you talk about your Cocker experience, I think of my Cavalier as he is a bit on the sporty side for a Cavalier. I get chills every a.m. as I watch him bound out onto our trail ahead of me, eyes alert and ears forward, springing along looking to flush the grouse from our treed acres. It is this happy energy, and the enthusiasm he shows when you pick up his ball and offer a game of fetch that is completely contagious. I love it.

My spaniel mix has just a little bit of noble independence added to her character - not ever allowing us to rule completely, and although I originally thought that I might resent managing this trait, it turns out it creates a slightly different appeal. She is just one small bit less overwhelming in her neediness and one small bit more self-entertaining. She has us all enamoured.

As I find a tremendous attraction to the Papillons I know well, I would imagine it is the gentle yet still playful "spanielness" in all of these dogs that I like, and any combination of these breeds would fit well with my heart.
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Dog Health > Lyme Disease? Any tips?


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Barked: Thu Sep 25, '08 10:51am PST 
Thanks for the feed back guys.

Morgan, your suggestion of crating her (although I know it came from the best intentions) made me laugh.

She is totally not fond of the crate. (This is very much in line with the Tibetan Spaniel breed who are lookout dogs and not den dogs). About 45 minutes is her limit in a place where she can't see. If I put the crate at the window where she can "watch out" she will stay in it for hours. It took us a year to even get her to that point of acceptance. She will also just sit at the window for hours without the crate and be much happier, so that is usually what happens. Unfortunately most vet's offices don't have lookout windows!

At the vet's yesterday while being tested and x-rayed they crated her. 15 minutes in she started to bark - the bossy demand bark that means "OK, ITS TIME TO LET ME OUT!!". Of course they didn't respond.

10 minutes of barking later she started whining and screaming which went on and off for the next full hour. She was only actually crated for 90 minutes.

The vet was sure to tell me about the "drama queen" when I picked her up.laugh out loud

Anyway, we did start her back on walks 10 days ago - only 1/2 hour but I power walk so for her its a quick pace. She really loves her walks too, but we are going to cut those out again (despite her weight gain) for the next month. Poor girl maintains easily on about 1/2 the food recommended for her weight unless she gets a lot of exercise. I hate the idea of cutting her down to almost nothing.

I didn't give her the painkiller yet. I have decided after getting opinions here and from family that I will if a couple days of complete rest and doxycyline doesn't clear up the limp. I tend to be chemical adverse and am a little worried about the two drugs together. I am one of those people who thinks long and hard before I even take an aspirin.

It is interesting to hear that other dogs have continued to limp even after the treatment. As clinical signs are supposed to be the way to gauge whether more treatment is needed, that would leave me wondering if they aren't still fighting the bacteria? This really is a confusing condition.

The good news is that I badgered the vet into finding the lab that does the newer C6 lyme test, which gives numbers that help to tell if the disease is still active or not. He initially was reluctant but he phoned me today and said he found a lab that does that test and her blood work is sent, so we'll at least have reference numbers to go by (retesting every six months lets you see a drop or rise in antibodies, with rising numbers meaning more treatment is needed as the lyme is active again).
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Dog Health > Lyme Disease? Any tips?


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Barked: Wed Sep 24, '08 4:52pm PST 
Apparently my tomboy Missie found the only lyme infected tick in all of Alberta in June.

That is sarcastic as we are so far North those of us who live here rarely have to deal with ticks and fleas, and as of yet, not heartworm either. Living with 40 below winter weather stretches is supposed to have at least some advantages!!

I pulled a tick off of Miss in June. She started showing signs of lethargy in August in the middle of a heat wave. We thought it might be the heat (she hates heat) but about 10 days in she came up with a limp. Worried, I took her straight to the vet (not my usual as this was a Sunday) and he did the Snap L4Dx to find out she was lyme positive. He also took blood for titers and sent them off which confirmed the diagnosis.

Anyway, she has been on doxycyline for 30 days, (another 30 to go) and she is still off and on limping on her left front leg.

The vet took a ton of x-rays today, and found nothing, but just in case, he also wants her on full rest and Metacam for a week. He is thinking she may have a soft tissue injury as the limp from lyme should be gone by now.

This vet, nor any in his office, nor my vet, or any in his office, have ever dealt with lyme. Apparently there has only been three canine cases in the Edmonton area over the last 10 years.

Does anyone on this forum have experience with lyme? This limp has me perplexed and if it is the indicator the bacteria are being hard on her I don't know if I want to mask this symptom with a painkiller.shrug I also don't know if the vet is correct in assuming this limp should be gone already.
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Dog Health > tick borne 'Babiosis' anyone?


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Barked: Mon Sep 22, '08 8:59pm PST 
Sorry to hear about Mikhail.

Missie currently is on doxycycline for lyme disease from a tick. I'll probably be posting some questions about that soon.

I found this site Tick-Borne Disease In Dogs which has a lot of information on lyme, but I just looked and it has some on babiosis as well. I hope it is useful for you.

There is a link at the bottom to "imozol" for treatment.
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Choosing the Right Dog > What personality do you lean towards in a dog?

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Barked: Sat Sep 13, '08 10:55pm PST 
This is a great question!

I actually owned a terribly inbred dog that was deaf and quite dumb. She came after many very smart and on the go herding type dogs, and I fell absolutely in love with the easy care of a dog that is not that bright!

So I obviously don't care about smart, as long as they are bright enough to learn to pee outside.dancing

Other than that I like gentle and friendly, (to everybody, not just to me). I also like a family orientated dog, not just a one person dog.

I have no use for protective dogs, hyper dogs, or dogs that really need to vent a lot of energy. A laid back casual personality in a pet is VERY important to me.

I walk twice a day, 1/2 hour each time, and so I am for a dog that will be satisfied with keeping me company doing that and as well have fun with a little fetch or tug.

I like snuggly dogs as I really like them on my lap, and I do prefer a responsive temperament to an independent one, but a little bit independent and self minded is OK.

My self minded one is on my lap at this moment snoozing away.
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Choosing the Right Dog > Can you help me with my survey? Its about choosing dogs


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Barked: Fri Aug 22, '08 11:57am PST 
I'm doing a little survey. Here are the following questions

1. Would you prefer a Giant, large, medium, or small dog?

I like them small to medium.

2. What breed would you choose (out of these) and why?

Pitt bull
German Shepard
Golden Retriever
Shih Tzu
Great Dane

I would not choose a dog from that list. I would chooses an adult small shedding mutt first (preferably shorter coated) with a temperament I like, or none at all.

Biddable easy going temperament, small size, easy coat care and shaped without exaggeration have always been at the top of my "want" list in a dog. None of the breeds listed fit all those four requirements. I go without if those cannot be found.

3. Would you own a bully breed? (Pitt bull, American Staffordshire Terrier, Rotwieler, etc) They are over my size range and known not to work well with pushover owners like myself, so no.

4. Is it bad dogs or bad owners? Bad owners. I do believe there are dogs that are by nature much harder to handle than others and can therefore be much more easily misdirected or messed up by poor handling.

5. Do you feel there is a better solution than BSL (breed specific legislation)? Yes, a dangerous dog ordinance has proven to work wonderfully in some communities.

6. If you adopted a dog at the shelter believing it was one thing but finding out it was predominantly Pitt bull what would you do?

If I had chosen to adopt a pet it would have impressed me to begin with. It's breed make up at that point wouldn't be a consideration.

Would you keep him, even if it meant having to move?

I have owned my home for 25 years so I just can't imagine what I would do in a different situation. I don't feel it is fair to comment on that as I am not in those shoes.

7. What is your favorite breed of all time (doesn't have to be on the list)? I like toy companion spaniels - Cavalier Spaniel being close to perfect for me.

For BSL Supporters: I am not one so I went no further.
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Choosing the Right Dog > Ideal Future Dogs?


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Barked: Wed Aug 13, '08 6:11pm PST 
I grew up with a pack person, my mom. We had goats, sheep, pigs, cattle, ducks, chickens of all sorts and kinds, turtles and hamsters, geese, horses and of course cats and dogs on a hobby farm. LOTS of hay and water hauling and LOTS of grooming, and I figured out as a child that for me - less is more.

I just like dogs, and just want dogs. I want about 6-10 dogs though, and my hubby limited me to two - which I snuck up to three already!

I have a serious love of small spaniel mixes and small spaniel types, so that is what I'll be sticking to - Tibetan Spaniel/Cavalier Spaniel/Papillon (yes its a toy spaniel type)/Cocker spaniel (pet line) and mixes of those breeds suit my fancy just fine. I am always on Petfinder looking at pups from these breeds/mixbreeds . . . . but I haven't been able to push that three to four quite yet.
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Tibetan Spaniel > Tibbie fan here!


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Barked: Fri Aug 8, '08 9:48am PST 
I found a page with photos of Leopoldo and Chotu, two other native Tibetan Spaniels.

Chotu and Leopoldo with photos

If you read the text on these pages you will see that there is still fighting amongst breeders as to whether or not these larger natives should be allowed into the now more refined Tibetan Spaniel gene pool.

Both sides use the same argument that breeders should not be manipulating the breed, but should be acting as guardians! I find that kind of funny.
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Tibetan Spaniel > Tibbie fan here!

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Barked: Fri Aug 8, '08 9:27am PST 
It's been a while since I read through this thread, but welcome! It is pawsome to see more Tibbie lovers on the forum.

Pixie, you just might be pure Tibbie - just a large one. I looked at your page and you do look just like a Tibbie should. You have more of a "native to Tibet" look.

Since the war 14 native Tibetan Dogs have been added to the purebred gene pool. These dogs were all slightly larger/stockier than the current show standard, and had the even bite and slightly longer muzzle called for in the original standard (the underbite has been constructed by the dog fancy and is NOT representative of true Tibetan breeds).

You can see a site about some of these dogs here:

Damchi, Chotu and Leopoldo

Pixie reminds me of Damchi.
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