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Service & Therapy Dogs > Freedom Design harness photos
Dingo

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Barked: Wed Aug 1, '12 3:11pm PST 
Although it isn't exactly the same I have found something that is rather similar if anyone was interested.

http://www.allk-9.com/defender-duty-dog-harness-p-904 .html

It is a shame that they stopped making this harness it seems to be fairly handy.
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» There has since been 3 posts. Last posting by Abigail (Abby), Apr 6 10:33 pm

Service & Therapy Dogs > NJ's Laws For Service Dogs In Training?
Dingo

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Barked: Tue Jul 31, '12 3:39pm PST 
Give it a break already. Now you are saying once again that your dog is ok to move forward in training. You are obviously NOT fit to train a SD. Look into programs because you obviously don't listen to anyone else. I know you haven't seeked help from a proffessional trainer, had the dog thoroughly examined, or have it behaviorally tested. And if you aren't able to look up the laws in your own state to find out for yourself then you surely don't need to be working with a SD because one of the most important aspects is to know your laws. It is very clear you are not going to listen to anyone on this board or any other board, when you need to. You need to take everyones advice and take a break and either look into a program or wait on the OT because you are not fit to do so.
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Service & Therapy Dogs > In home companion

Dingo

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Barked: Tue Jul 31, '12 1:54pm PST 
A boxer would NOT be a good match. They are high energy dogs that need a lot of exercise and much more than I'm sure your dad could give it. Size doesn't neccissarily mean anything in dogs, some of the most laid back dogs are larger breeds. What matters is finding one with the proper entergy level and temperament. Also a smaller dog would not be reccommended for picking up items because your dad would still have to lean over to get the item from the dogs mouth.
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» There has since been 4 posts. Last posting by Kashmir ♥ CGC, Aug 1 11:51 am


Service & Therapy Dogs > My service dog is currently training. have a few ?'s

Dingo

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Barked: Tue Jul 31, '12 1:39pm PST 
HUGE HUGE HUGE RED FLAG!!!

Is "registered" with SARA-Service Dog Animal Registery of America.

Basically "registered" with a fakers registery that feeds off of suckers and fakers that want to take their "pets" everywhere with them. This is NOT something to be proud to be registered with. It is a money scam all the way around. SARA charges a yearly fee to be registered with them and this "program" charges high dollar for their so called SD's that are really just glorified pets, and feed off of people who don't know any better.
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» There has since been 10 posts. Last posting by Bianca CGC TT HIC Thd ♥, Aug 2 4:21 pm


Service & Therapy Dogs > My service dog is currently training. have a few ?'s

Dingo

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Barked: Tue Jul 31, '12 1:22pm PST 
Seizure alert dogs were originally mentioned because this "program" you claim can train your SD in 3 months states on their page that one of the dogs they train are seizure "alert" dogs. And any reputable program knows that you cannot train an alert, only a response. And deffinitely would not advertise to be able to do so.

Also you mention that one of the tasks you are having this dog be trained to do is to bark loudly to keep people away. BAD BAD BAD idea, especially for a GSD. This is going to train the dog to have a high probability of becomeing agressive. Also as mentioned by Tuvok GSD's are not reccommended for PSD work because of their breeding.

None of us here are trying to attack you in any way, or question your need for a SD. But we are questioning this so called "program", I call it a scam, because we don't want to see you get burned in the process. Have you looked up programs through the delta society? Also Service Dog Central has LOADS of great tips of what to look for and what to watch out for when dealing with programs. They also have an extensive list of good and bad programs.


Also what lines does this GSD come from? Is it from German working lines or from American conformation lines? This is a VERY important aspect to look at. If looking at GSD you want to make sure the dog comes from strong successful working lines, because simply put the American conformation lines simply will not hold up.

And you also state that after a week of training with the dog in October "you" will decide if dog needs more training or not. It should NEVER be the potential handler that decides this but rather the program trainer(s). This is another HUGE red flag. Do you know how a SD is supposed to act at all times? Probably not. Do you know what to look for behavioral, stress, and knowledge wise? Probably not. And simply put no matter how good the dog is, how good the trainer is, or how much training is put in a day, a SD CANNOT be trained in 3 months. It is at least MINIMUM of 6-8 months of PA training alone. Before that you have basic and advanced obedience training, as well as task training. And this takes another SEVERAL months to achieve. There is also training in teaching the dog to not react to outside influences, not be distracted, not jump at noises or other things would ultimately come across.

Also you have not mentioned how old this dog is? Is it a puppy, adult? Where did the dog come from? Did the program breed themselves, breeding for specific traits? Or is it from a shelter/rescue which lowers your chances even farther of having a successfull fully trained SD. Also has the dog been tested not only temerment tested by a behaviorist but also physical tests. Full x-rays and eyes and reviewed by a specialist? This is something an ordinary vet cannot evaluate. And this testing continues throught the dogs time in the program training. And when begins PA training it then is evaluated AGAIN to make sure that the dog can handle all the stress that a SD ultimately has to face.

I also suffer from severe PTSD, so I know many of the struggles that come with it. But have you though about how you would be able to handle confrontations? YOU need to be prepaired to protect your SD at all costs. This means putting yourself between you and a potential attacker. Can you do that? Can you stand up to a gatekeeper who is questioning your rights? What will you do if someone throws things at either you or your dog, or worse and tries to kick your dog? You need to be able to handle these kinds of situations because they WILL happen. It should NEVER be the other way around of having your SD protect you, this kind of action forms aggressive dogs, especially in GSD's who's brain chemistry cannot differentiate between the two.
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» There has since been 11 posts. Last posting by Bianca CGC TT HIC Thd ♥, Aug 2 4:21 pm

Service & Therapy Dogs > In home companion
Dingo

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Barked: Tue Jul 31, '12 12:56pm PST 
Yes their are many dogs like this. You can check with a program for a washed out dog that they have available. Many have dogs that are task trained but did pass the qualifications for public access. Also can look into getting a rescue dog if you would like that is already an adult and housetrained (basic commands would be a plus) that you could train yourself to do the things he may need help with. No need to worry about many of the requirements for SD's because wont be doing PA work and won't be doing the extra amount of walking that SD's do. I have a cousin that is currently working on getting a in-home SD only. Because she absolutely cannot go off her property without a service human, period. But having an in-home SD would benefit her so she could at least get out of bed during the day. Her does have to be physically screened though because it would be doing some amount of brace work.
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» There has since been 6 posts. Last posting by Kashmir ♥ CGC, Aug 1 11:51 am


Service & Therapy Dogs > HFA trying to train a Service Dog .. Any Advice?

Dingo

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Barked: Mon Jul 30, '12 3:33pm PST 
Cooper, it's ok. My husband and I have talked about it and after we move into a house (working on now) and have some more space then we can look into OT another SD or getting a program dog. But Dingo will NEVER go anywhere, he has been my faithfull buddy for the past 4 years. But we do need more space in order to support 3 dogs, cause in a 1200sq.ft. condo with a tiny padio is not sufficiant enough. And if do OT and the dog washes out then would go to a great home with my horse trainer/friend. Just trying to decide right now if program would be the best route for us because with my balance issues becoming worse and worse don't know if would be such a good idea for me to train a dog for brace work or if better for someone else to do so.
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» There has since been 1 post. Last posting by Ebony, Aug 1 12:07 am


Service & Therapy Dogs > HFA trying to train a Service Dog .. Any Advice?

Dingo

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Barked: Mon Jul 30, '12 3:04pm PST 
I am going to be very blunt, but I'm doing it to help you. OT a SD is NOT any cheaper than getting one from a program. You need to have your dog throughly checked by specialists (normal vet will not do) complete with x-rays and other physical tests because the amount of walking that a SD does is soo much greater than a normal pet dog and so puts more strain on their joints, and they need to be able to physically hold up to this task.

Also a conversation starter does not qualify you for a SD and deffinitely does not qualify you as being disabled to ADA standards.

OT a SD is not an easy task, and not everyone can do it. You need to get the help of a proffessional experienced trainer who has worked with SD's in their past and been successful. And trainers are not cheap. My trainer runs at almost $200/hr for a private session and I get help from her on a weekly basis.

You also need to have your dog evaluated by a behaviorist again who is familiar with SD's. The standards temperment wise are a whole other ballgame from what is considered acceptable for pets. Also you need to be sure that your dog can handle all the stress's of being a SD.

The ratio of a dog being able to pass all these test/requirements and making it to full SD are not high. And those numbers are even lower, I believe 1 in 100, if dog is from shelter/rescue or from backyard breeder/puppy mill. SD's from programs are specifically bred to be SD's and it is only about 50% of those that actually make it to be full SD's the others wash out and are given homes as pets or ESA's (which do NOT have PA rights). OT lowers the rate of your dog successfully making it as a SD even more.

Also need to be prepaired for the long extensive training that you would face. It takes anywhere from 18-24 months to fully train a SD, and that is according to programs who have experience in training these animals. For OT's it is typically longer.

I'm not saying this to discourage you but it is something to take into consideration. You say that the high price tag for a program SD is too much for you but OT costs just as much if not more, and the dog still chances are won't make it.

Perfect example. I've been currently training my current dog Dingo to be my SD. His physical tests and temerament testing that had done before even started training costs me roughly about $1500. Then paying the trainer for the past 3 months on a weekly basis has been another few thousands of dollars. And I'm realizing now that he isn't going to work for me because I need more physical help on top of my mental help. So now I am on the hunt for another SD to OT or looking into a program, havent decided yet. But either way I've lost so much money already, and if I OT I have to be prepaired that I may lose again.

This is something that you need to think seriously about and also to look into the costs financially.
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Service & Therapy Dogs > My service dog is currently training. have a few ?'s

Dingo

All business no- play, I have a- job to do
 
 
Barked: Mon Jul 30, '12 2:43pm PST 
I have to ask, your dog just started training today and you will get him in October? It takes longer than 3 months to train a SD. I am already questioning the abilities of this program.

As far as access questions go, be prepared to have to defend yourself. Know your rights both feder, state, and city laws. And be prepaired to protect your dog at all costs. There are some very cruel people out their who like to abuse SD's.
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» There has since been 36 posts. Last posting by Bianca CGC TT HIC Thd ♥, Aug 2 4:21 pm

Small Dogs > The dog won't shut up
Dingo

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Barked: Wed Jul 25, '12 12:08pm PST 
Sorry posted before was finished. Having a bit of computer trouble. I only made a profile for my dog Dingo just as a track of his SD training and progress.

Maybe it would help me cope with her I don't know. But I do need to keep things as simple as possible right now. So I don't know if keeping two dog profiles would be too much or not, but I could give it a try if someone could tell me if someone could explain how?
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