Raw Food Diet > Bone pieces not digesting, why??
Cookie
 the chi-weenie | 
| Barked: Tue Apr 30, '13 3:58pm PST |  |  |  |  | okay, so cartilidge like that is not digested. Good thing the chicken drum was a one time meal, I cooked the rest for us to eat.
I'm still a little confused because the pieces she threw up seemed small enough that she could have passed them.. but then again, maybe not. I don't know how small her insides are.
and I wonder whether the swallowing and licking was caused by those pieces stuck in her stomach or if she had a grass or hair caught in her throat. |  |  |  |  |
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Raw Food Diet > Bone pieces not digesting, why??
Cookie
 the chi-weenie | 
| Barked: Tue Apr 30, '13 7:41am PST |  |  |  |  | Hello Dogster :c Yesterday evening I fed my dog a chicken drum for the first time. I even got it on youtube.
She has been on raw diet for over a year now, she eats beef and pork bones just fine and had eaten chicken necks and wings in the past.
The chicken drum was more than her usual meal, about twice as much.
In the middle of the night she started to swallow and lick repeatedly, even started licking the floor frantically at one point but I made her stop. It kept me up most of the night, she was still doing it in the morning.
So long story short, I made her throw up.
She threw up a lot of grass, some hair, and about 3 or 4 small pieces of the chicken bone she carefully chewed up yesterday evening. (I poked the throw up with a butter knife! The pieces were hard and white).
Could these have been very hard cartilidge that wasn't digesting? or can she not digest so much bone at once? Is this the reason why she was swallowing and licking so much? (she seems to have stopped doing that now).
thanks for any help! |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 2 posts. Last posting by Cookie, Apr 30 3:58 pm
Raw Food Diet > About the raw and kibble together

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Raw Food Diet > About the raw and kibble together
Cookie
 the chi-weenie | 
| Barked: Sat Apr 20, '13 4:00pm PST |  |  |  |  | Hello Dogster! I haven't been here in a long time, but I've been feeding raw for over a year now.
I want some opinions on feeding raw and kibble together because I bought a grain free kibble to use as treats for training and stuff.
I feed Cookie her raw in the evening, between 5 and 6 when I get off work, and after work is also when I find time to do training sessions with her.
Would it be okay for her to have the kibble treats so soon after eating her raw?
I suppose I could feed her raw in the morning, however I wouldn't be able to let her out for potty until 8 hours later. and I actually was feeding her in the mornings when it became too much a hassle so I switched to feeding in the evenings when i had more time.
I would really like to keep feeding her in the evenings but I don't want to cause a problem.
Also, would it be important that I slim down her meals if she's going to get kibble for treats? |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 4 posts. Last posting by Cookie, Apr 21 6:36 am
Raw Food Diet > Newbie to the raw diet
Cookie
 the chi-weenie | 
| Barked: Sat Feb 23, '13 3:53pm PST |  |  |  |  | gee I tried to find some into for you as well and ran into mixed info right away... something about purine levels, but one source said chicken was one of the highest purines and one said chicken was one of the lowest purine levels. dang! I don't know anything about Dalmatians, but I hope that you are able to make it work!
honestly, in my mind, I think that a Dalmatian would do great on prey model raw. The raw meat has a lot of water in it and I think the amount of water would counteract any high purine meats. As opposed to high purine meats used in kibble which can use meat 'meals' in which all the water has been removed and so it is so much more concentrated.
and organ meat is such a small part of the diet... but that's just my thoughts, I hope you find some really useful info soon |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 2 posts. Last posting by Sandy, Feb 23 7:05 pm
Raw Food Diet > Knowing how much to feed
Cookie
 the chi-weenie | 
| Barked: Fri Feb 22, '13 4:03pm PST |  |  |  |  | I don't know about cups, but prey model raw says to feed 2-3% of your dogs weight. If they aren't keeping weight like you want them to, feed more.
Also, I know a dog who has a hard time keeping weight on and her only solution was to have grains in the food (oatmeal). Dogs are all individuals and may require different things.
If your dog is still young, he could still just be in an awkward growing stage. I always see pups look really thin around that certain age. |  |  |  |  |
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Raw Food Diet > clean up.
Cookie
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| Barked: Fri Feb 22, '13 4:00pm PST |  |  |  |  | Is he allergic to beef? (it's important to feed red meat when you can, so keep that in mind when you look at your meat options)
My dog doesn't get very messy when she eats. She won't use her paws, only recently she's been using them more because I've been feeding her more complicated stuff on purpose.
You can buy antibacterial wipies and wipe your dogs face and paws after they eat.
Raw meat from the store is not really that messy and kept cold to keep away bacteria. All meat has the potential to harbor bacteria quickly once it becomes a good temperature for bacteria to grow, but so does all other foods.
Just use common sense, like you would when preparing food raw meat or veggies for yourself. I have been feeding my dog raw for over a year and never had anything bad happen to anyone in my household from it. |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 6 posts. Last posting by Rexy, Feb 23 11:48 pm
Raw Food Diet > Newbie to the raw diet
Cookie
 the chi-weenie | 
| Barked: Tue Feb 19, '13 4:31pm PST |  |  |  |  | The first reply hit it on the nail!
that much chicken wings are too much bone for the long term diet, but use them to help from getting loose stool when you are transitioning.
the diet is 80% meat, 10% bone and 10% organ (with at least half being liver)
and probiotic can help, it just may take a while for the dogs system to transition. |  |  |  |  |
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Raw Food Diet > Got my first lecture from the vet this morning . . .
Cookie
 the chi-weenie | 
| Barked: Tue Feb 19, '13 4:26pm PST |  |  |  |  | Cookie has been on raw for over a year now! No vet visits except her annual and she was in 'excellent body condition'
It's good to be aware of those bad things, but it's a fact that our dogs are doing just fine, if not great on raw meat. |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 20 posts. Last posting by Ember FDX, Mar 19 2:18 pm
Raw Food Diet > Newbie With Concerns
Cookie
 the chi-weenie | 
| Barked: Tue Feb 19, '13 4:23pm PST |  |  |  |  | If she can swallow a whole chicken wing bone.. then she must not be very small. maybe I have the wrong image in my head.
Anyways, I have a 8.5 lb dog who has been on raw for over a year now (yay).
Did you feed the wing with the skin on? Skin can cause loose stool if your not careful. It's very fatty.
You should be able to hear the dog 'crunch' the bone. As long as she is crunching it, that's all she needs to do. Remember, it's cooked bones which do not digest right and can cause serious internal injury when swallowed. Raw bones are digested by the stomach acid.
Dogs can choke on anything they put into their mouth. not just bones. If your small dog is choking, seek medical help, hold their back end up and give back blows just like you do with a baby.
I think it really helps to watch other dogs tackle bones when your feeling worried! just get on youtube and type in 'small dogs eating raw bones' or something.
Also, since the pup has been on kibble, you can try adding probiotics to aid the digestive tract.
Chicken necks are also a great starter bone for tiny dogs.
and lately I can find beef neck bone (sliced) which I find is awesome to give my small dog. The bones are like a puzzle getting all the meat off, and they are too big to crunch and swallow so they give your dog something to gnaw on. |  |  |  |  |
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