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Behavior & Training > Bibliophobic or Allodoxaphobic
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Augusta
Never leave a- treat behind! | 
 | | Barked: Sun Nov 29, '09 2:26pm PST | |  | |  | | What's in that water you been swimmin' in Nick? 
(eta: Oh, wait, I see--it's one of your rare moments out of the water!)
How does our fear of books or other people's opinions (thanks, I had to look that up!) influence our dog training?
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 » There has since been 8 posts. Last posting by Dr. Watson, Sun 6:43 pm
Behavior & Training > Training Dogs and Horses--what do theyhave in common?
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Augusta
Never leave a- treat behind! |
| | Barked: Sun Nov 29, '09 10:18am PST | | | | | | As far as bits go, I would say that is *almost* entirely in the hands of the rider--it takes two to pull! (some bits are so ridiculous--like bicycle chain  that I don't know why they even exist!) It might be helpful to the horse if riders were forced to hold harsher reins (like piano wire, with barbs) ) instead of being allowed to reach for a stronger bit! That would teach us not to be cruel!
A horse that is pulling/leaning against the bit (which to me is really stiffening the neck and jaw muscles!) is not well educated in giving to the pressure of the bit--just as with dogs, distractions, excitement, speed all can work against the horse's focus and relaxation and thus he must be taught, conditioned through all this (as dog trainers talk about the dog being "proofed") before he should be considered "educated" to the bit.
Use of anything harsher--crueler bits is a good indication the horse was rushed to a higher level of excitement, without taking the time to go back and make sure he was comfortable and relaxed . . . | | | | |
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» There has since been 5 posts. Last posting by Khola- CDX, CGC, Sun 8:34 pmBehavior & Training > 2 year old attacks 13 year old
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Augusta
Never leave a- treat behind! |
| | Barked: Sun Nov 29, '09 9:48am PST | | | | | | A friend of mine adopted a yr. old female pit bull mix when she already had a Boston Terrier (5 yr old.) The pit bull was super sweet with people, super high energy, hyper and seemed to play well, although rambunctiously with other dogs. She was a difficult dog because of her high energy, and separation anxiety but my friend was trying with obedience training and a behaviorist. One day she left the dogs loose alone while going to the gym and came back to find the pittie had attacked the Boston--blood everywhere, deep neck punctures that required drains . . .
She turned the pittie over to a rescue after consulting the behaviorist (who strongly advocated euthanasia) with full disclosure of the situation, and she was rehomed in a "no other pets" household.
That said, it was a real eye-opener for my friend and looking back she now sees that her Boston Terrier had been being bullied and overwhelmed and stressed by the other dog for months. Whatever you do, I don't think it's worth it to Lucky, nor does Lucky deserve this terror and stress in his old age! And you probably aren't enjoying the stress either. At the very least rehome the other dog . . . | | | | |
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» There has since been 4 posts. Last posting by , Sun 7:51 pmBehavior & Training > Training Dogs and Horses--what do theyhave in common?
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Augusta
Never leave a- treat behind! |
| | Barked: Sat Nov 28, '09 12:42pm PST | | | | | | I think I see where you're coming from Khola, about deceiving the public . . .  there is certainly a lot of "Ta da! I'm So-and-So and I've got THE next Revolution in horse/dog training!" And people do line up around the block for it . . . I wish I had a $1 for everytime I overheard, "Well, Cesar, says. . . ." at the dog park!
And there is something awfully show-man-y about this Nevzerov guy (I mean the boots, the outfit and music were over the top)!
Never wrong to be suspicious of someone who's selling something too hard.
This particular guy aside, would you disavow all bitless/bridle-less approaches to training? The thread started as a dog training to horse training comparison . . . . certainly dogs are routinely trained to be "off leash" and focused on the handler, do you think there's room for it in horse training or a place for more positive rewards for horses? | | | | |
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» There has since been 9 posts. Last posting by Khola- CDX, CGC, Sun 8:34 pmBehavior & Training > Training Dogs and Horses--what do theyhave in common?
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Augusta
Never leave a- treat behind! |
| | Barked: Fri Nov 27, '09 7:27pm PST | | | | | | I thought the videos were interesting as to what is possible . . . that the focus is more important than the bit . . .
It's a bit jaded, Khola, to automatically be dismissive of the "trick" horse, just because you saw some "behind the scenes harshness" where you worked. . . . your experience isn't necessarily proof of another trainer's methods . . .
There were some treats being handed out in this (as well as in other "free dressage" type videos).
Maybe the piaffe was sucky--won't defend the guy there, however a pet peeve of mine is some of the pretty sucky "collected" dressage at what is supposed to be the Olympic level 
. . . whether it's the influence of the German school, or that the preferred super large Warmbloods just don't have the build to collect with the beauty of a Lippizaner, Andalusian or Lusitano. | | | | |
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» There has since been 14 posts. Last posting by Khola- CDX, CGC, Sun 8:34 pm
Behavior & Training > Shayne and the DARK CHOCOLATE....
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Augusta
Never leave a- treat behind! |
| | Barked: Fri Nov 27, '09 6:28pm PST | | | | | | So did you eat it after she brought it to you?
Way to go Shayne!
We definitely would have eaten it--we ate a milky way once and the wrapper too! | | | | |
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» There has since been 18 posts. Last posting by Shayne, Sat 2:34 pmSaying Goodbye: Memorials & Support > The dog who saved my life
» There has since been 1 post. Last posting by Donovan'sMajesticJet of Solace, Sun 11:02 amOther Barks & Woofs > Safe Night Walking--Paws up for Spike Blinky Collar!
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Augusta
Never leave a- treat behind! |
| | Barked: Thu Nov 26, '09 4:29pm PST | | | | | | Well, that is another pro, it's pretty wide, with long hair in mind--it's meant to be worn with your regular collar, not as a stand-alone collar--so you can wear it a little loosely to make sure it lies over the hair.
I had the clip on light too, and then I realized when I let her loose at night in the park, if her chest was away from you, the light didn't show, whereas with the collar it shows at any angle. | | | | |
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» There has since been 4 posts. Last posting by angel, Sat 1:55 amBehavior & Training > Training Dogs and Horses--what do theyhave in common?
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Augusta
Never leave a- treat behind! |
| | Barked: Thu Nov 26, '09 4:25pm PST | | | | | | Another thing I thought of today . . . horses vs. dogs . . . both are their own unique species, each with their special charms, not to be fairly compared, but . . . . I think if I were going to become lost in the woods, and had a choice between counting on a dog or a horse to get me back to camp (as efficiently as possible, anyway) . . . I'd definitely choose the horse.  | | | | |
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» There has since been 18 posts. Last posting by Khola- CDX, CGC, Sun 8:34 pm
Other Barks & Woofs > Safe Night Walking--Paws up for Spike Blinky Collar!
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Augusta
Never leave a- treat behind! |
| | Barked: Wed Nov 25, '09 1:07pm PST | | | | | | Sorry I forgot, found it on Amazon--if you google Spike lighted collar, there were some other dog supply places that had it too.  | | | | |
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