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Meridian
Proud to be a- kitchen wolf!!! | 
 | | Barked: Mon Nov 23, '09 7:53pm PST | |  | |  | | If it's Alaskan, it ain't farmed, so your fish is one or the other. There are no salmon farming operations in Alaska. Atlantic salmon, on the other hand, might as well mean "farmed".
I personally won't touch farmed salmon with a 10 foot pole for ethical, political, environmental, health, OR taste reasons. Wild salmon's great stuff, though. |  |  | |  |
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 » There has since been 0 posts. Last posting by Meridian, Today 7:53 pm
Raw Food Diet > Do you use vitamins or supplements?
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Meridian
Proud to be a- kitchen wolf!!! |
| | Barked: Sat Nov 21, '09 9:45am PST | | | | | | I give the occasional fish oil. I'm out of it right now, and I'm not rushing out to get more -- that's how occasional! For the last few years fall/winter has meant a good source of wild game meat and cheap whole salmon, so I'm not super worried about O-3s. The rest of the year when it's back to grocery-store meat I give fish oil more regularly. | | | | |
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» There has since been 5 posts. Last posting by Byron, Today 2:33 pmRaw Food Diet > Raw Food for Puppies
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Meridian
Proud to be a- kitchen wolf!!! |
| | Barked: Sat Nov 21, '09 9:25am PST | | | | | | I wouldn't worry about "weaning" him onto raw. Research how to feed a proper raw diet and get going! He shouldn't really have any "adjustment" issues -- he's only been weaned to kibble in the last few weeks!
Small dogs and puppies do great with things like chicken, quail, and rabbit for cuts of meat that provide an edible bone content, and don't hold out on the RMBs! Just because he's small doesn't mean he can't eat. I'm sure you're finding out how efficient those little chompers are as he tries them out on everything he can get them on, including your hands!
Starting him out on a good raw diet is a great way to start life! Don't hesitate!
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» There has since been 6 posts. Last posting by Marley, Sat 11:55 pmRaw Food Diet > Never feeding tripe again!
» There has since been 6 posts. Last posting by K-10 Von Canein, Sun 7:01 pmRaw Food Diet > Elimination Diet
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Meridian
Proud to be a- kitchen wolf!!! |
| | Barked: Sat Nov 21, '09 8:39am PST | | | | | | Sorry to hear about the itchies!
I was gonna say basically the same as Summer -- I wouldn't necessarily jump to the conclusion that it's food. Given a diet that includes a wide variety of proteins, it's sort of unlikely that all of a sudden she's developed an allergy or intolerance to one certain thing. I'd take a look at other things that may have started a month or so ago, and see if any of those things could be the culprit.
Summer mentioned floor cleaners and detergents -- good place to start. If you haven't done anything differently and can be SURE a couple weeks ago when you, say, washed the dog bed, the soap you used was the same and it was rinsed out completely, it's probably not even household environmental irritation.
Our weather here in western Canada has been nutso (that's a technical meteoroligical term, BTW  ) over the last month. Early cold and snow before the leaves could even fall off the trees -- which started about a month ago -- then warm, and who knows where we're headed now! The cold ground, snow, and dry weather can be physically irritating. One of my dogs tends to start licking her feet when cold weather and snow hits us for the first time, but more out of a sort of depression than the physical effects of winter. Maybe it's a weather thing? Chloe's profile says she's only a year old, so she probably hasn't really experienced winter yet? If she was little-tiny last winter she may not have really gotten a feel for what was actually going on, but now that she's a "big dog" it may be coming as a shock that it's cold and she's gotta walk around in the "white stuff".
Not to be underestimated is the effect of stress, too. Foot licking and chewing is a VERY common reaction to stress, and once a spot is licked to the point of irritation, or even a "lick granuloma" or something, it starts a cycle that can be tough to break. Stressors don't have to be severe, or even all that "bad". Weather can be a stessor, change of any sort can cause stress. Has your family's schedule changed in any way? Maybe you moved the toy box. Maybe you started cutting morning yard/walk/park time short so that you have time to warm up the car and scrape frost off the windows? Little things that seem so normal to us can really affect our dogs.
Hope you get this figured out soon, and the itchies stop! | | | | |
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» There has since been 1 post. Last posting by Chloe, Sat 10:54 am
Raw Food Diet > some updated raw before and after pics...
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Meridian
Proud to be a- kitchen wolf!!! |
| | Barked: Fri Nov 20, '09 11:31pm PST | | | | | | Hmmm... I've been lurking on this thread since you posted it, but haven't wanted to get involved! I do now, though.
First off, I'm so glad Bam-Bam is doing well with the raw diet, and you too. Bam-Bam seems like a very capable and just-in-general great dog!
I think a lot of the strife in this thread may very well have to do with show-standards and other standards. A lot of show-dogs are encouraged to be overweight and otherwise unhealthy. Just as a vet isn't a nutritionist, necessarily, the ACK/CKC ring isn't the best judge of a healthy dog. The AKC just dropped it's "breed standard" weight for chihuahuas to 6 pounds. Chis over 4 pounds aren't getting a "fair shake". It's a "trend".
Just as Chi's are supposed to be small, Mastiffs are supposed to be big. The show judges are encouraging unhealthy dogs. That's the world of conformation showing. Not that it's bad to have a "championioned" dog, you just have to understand what it means, and where you make the distinction between "healthy dog" and "show dog". Of course there are considerations for the next generation -- I'm assuming if you're going thru the trial of showing him, you're going to breed him?
One thing a lot of raw feeders (especially raw breeders) pride themselves on is how SLOWLY they can get their dogs to grow. It's generally accepted that the slower the growth, the healthier the dog, especially when it comes to large breed dogs. That's why everyone's "jumping" on you about Ban-Bam's weight gain. The standard has been challenged, and there's a better way. Slow growth. You don't WANT your dog to put on a ton of weight in his first and second year, especially -- as you pointed out -- Mastiffs don't necessarily mature 'till 3 or 4 years of age.
Don't get me wrong -- you mentioned that Bam-Bam was sick on kibble, and I'm sure he was. I'm so glad the raw is working for him. It all comes down to body conditioning, and if you and your vet are cool with the way he is, great. You can obviously condition him to what you want on a raw diet, just as you theoretically could with commercial food.
One more thing -- A dog's "tuck" refers to their belly, not their waist. You posted that pic of Bam-Bam and you in the ball gown referring to his "tuck", but you couldn't actually see that part of him. Again, maybe it's showing standards, but that's what has people all up in a lather. Bam-Bam's definitely got a waist, but he doesn't have much of a "tuck" -- definitely compared to that "before" pic, where he had a very nice "tuck". | | | | |
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» There has since been 3 posts. Last posting by Fritz, Sat 7:54 amRaw Food Diet > So, what's in your food bowl today!!
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Meridian
Proud to be a- kitchen wolf!!! |
| | Barked: Fri Nov 20, '09 10:45pm PST | | | | | | Hah! I guess you didn't have to go all the way to Singapore to get those prices, Summer! Sounds pretty on-par with what I'm paying here in Canada, cheaper maybe! I just wish I had the selection here.... In Vancouver or Calgary or Toronto I'd have the access to the "weird parts", but not so much here. Oh, and GOAT. Man, I wish I had goat here for ME!!! And the dog, of course..... | | | | |
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» There has since been 4 posts. Last posting by Tucker, CGC, TDI, Today 7:16 pmRaw Food Diet > So, what's in your food bowl today!!
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Meridian
Proud to be a- kitchen wolf!!! |
| | Barked: Fri Nov 20, '09 10:45pm PST | | | | | | Hah! I guess you didn't have to go all the way to Singapore to get those prices, Summer! Sounds pretty on-par with what I'm paying here in Canada, cheaper maybe! I just wish I had the selection here.... In Vancouver or Calgary or Toronto I'd have the access to the "weird parts", but not so much here. Oh, and GOAT. Man, I wish I had goat here for ME!!! And the dog, of course..... | | | | |
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» There has since been 5 posts. Last posting by Tucker, CGC, TDI, Today 7:16 pmRaw Food Diet > Never feeding tripe again!
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Meridian
Proud to be a- kitchen wolf!!! |
| | Barked: Fri Nov 20, '09 10:38pm PST | | | | | | All birds like chickens have gizzards. The gizzard is part of the "crop" where they break down the grains and such that they do eat. Heck, alligators have gizzards, too. It's a part of what they are -- birds and amphibians and reptiles are more different than just their skin!
An animal is only as "nutrient dense" as their own diet. Thus the difference between grass-fed cows and grain-fed cows. | | | | |
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» There has since been 8 posts. Last posting by K-10 Von Canein, Sun 7:01 pm
Raw Food Diet > Hog Mauls and Chitterlings.
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Meridian
Proud to be a- kitchen wolf!!! |
| | Barked: Fri Nov 20, '09 9:45pm PST | | | | | | Hog maw is the stomach of a pig, chitterlings are the intestines. Both sold for human consumption have been cleaned and bleached. (Not like Clorox, but with other stuff.) Like the others have said, the nutritional benefits have been changed/taken from their original state. The biggest issue is that a lot of times they're "brined" to some extent with a salty solution as a sort of finisher/preservative. More often than not, especially with chit'lin's, a chemical preservative is used.
As with many other things like it, best to wash/drain it before feeding, at least if it's going to be a semi-regular thing. (Same as with if you're going to eat it yourself.) I definitely wouldn't feed chitterlings/maw regularly, but if it's a hit and a special sometimes food, then fine. Count it under your general "extra" portion. For some of us "extras" count as VERY little, for others "extras" (like plate-lickn's and treats) can account for up to 5% of the overall diet! | | | | |
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