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Grooming > Spotty Dogs

In Memory of- Dolly

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Barked: Sat Oct 10, '09 2:47pm PST


	My Dal's had all their spots in by 1 or 2 years old. Though, I've heard of some Dal's getting "senoir ticking" or "flecking" in their older years. Dolly's spots always looked bigger when she was wet and you could see some spots on her skin that did not show through to her fur. There were quite a few times when we thought she was still growing spots well into her years, but it's hard to know for sure. Other breeds with ticking or "freckles" aren't born with them (like setters and pointers etc.) but develop them after a couple of months. I'm not sure what kind of pooch Kady is, but she sure is cute! She does seem a bit houndish

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Puppy Place > Ethics and guilt around purchasing a purebred puppy.

In Memory of- Dolly

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Barked: Sun Sep 20, '09 1:40pm PST


	Addy, yes, my point was that that is a very silly thing to say - that is, to get a dog based on color. There are plenty of dogs that would fit my bill of "the right dog" for me and to put it down to one particular kind of dog (especially based on color) is rather unkind to all the other dogs needing a home. (btw - I'll never buy a dog anyways but, to rescue a dog based on color is silly too - why it's harder to adopt out black dogs vs. other dogs) It's simply not true that "a dog is a dog is a dog" and that anyone who wants a dog should be satisfied with whatever dog happens to currently be next up for execution at the local shelter. Nor is it true that the shelters in any given area will reliably have (or have within a reasonable period of time) the full range of dogs that someone might reasonably want. It's that very diversity among dogs, and the uneven distribution of them, that means that people who would be happy to adopt, will sometimes end up buying a dog. I understand that there is a wide variety of dogs, but there are millions of loving companions being put down every year. If we really adopted dogs based on how well they would fit in with our lives and not on silly requirements such as beauty, I'm sure there is a shelter dog for every single person wanting one - if only we weren't as picky in choosing one. Does someone really need a teacup poodle when there is another loving, small breed dog that would also fit the bill at the shelter right now? My Dalmatians were as different from each other as they were from my GSPs, but in any case - they were all perfect for me, in their own different ways. Do people have so many requirements that seriously, only one dog fits that bill? I highly doubt it. We just prefer to have a particular breed when others would do just as well. And beyond that--it is actually not illegal, immoral, or fattening to want a puppy, to want a particular breed, or to want a dog from health-tested, temperament-tested lines, who has received excellent nutrition, medical care, and socialization up to the time that you bring dog into your home. Can we really say it is "right" to buy any dog when millions are killed every year, purely because we have certain standards that a shelter dog may not live up to? Buying a puppy means letting a shelter dog die because they aren't good enough for you- that is, for no fault of their own. I think it's important to remember that these are lives, not products on the shelves of a store. To think that these dogs could live their lives to the fullest if only people kept an open mind is very sad to me. Would you kill a dog because you really wanted a puppy, a particular breed, or a dog from health-tested, temperament-tested lines, who has received excellent nutrition, medical care, and socialization up to the time that you bring the dog into your home? Of course not. It'd be immoral.

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Puppy Place > Ethics and guilt around purchasing a purebred puppy.

In Memory of- Dolly

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Barked: Sun Sep 20, '09 8:18am PST


	On another note - isn't it weird how many of us have never boughten a cat, but have bought dogs? I wonder if it's because our requirements for dogs are too strict? The next dog that I plan on adopting is definitely going to be a hound. In particular I like coonhounds - in particular lol, this one type of coonhound. This one type of coonhound happens to be a whole lot like other types of coonhounds in personality and energy... well in almost every way except it's comes in different colors... I'm sure there a thousands of other dogs that would fit my idea of perfect companion (probably most of the other hound breeds and most of their variety of mixes)... It just depends on how available this particular dog is and how picky I'll be when the time comes around.

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Puppy Place > Ethics and guilt around purchasing a purebred puppy.

In Memory of- Dolly

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Barked: Sun Sep 20, '09 8:02am PST


	I agree with Josie - there are lots of dogs in need of homes that could fit your bill. Unfortunately, Huskies aren't a rare find in rescues/shelters. You could definitely find a healthy Husky pup within the next few years - I'd argue you could do it a lot more easily than you could find a responsible breeder.

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Dog Laws & Legislation > What do you think of PETA?

Hoelle- Jagdhund- Jaeger

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Barked: Mon May 11, '09 9:05am PST


	Addy - I know I was just trying to say that abolishing domesticity isn't necessarily an evil act... PeTA just makes it that way. Actually, most abolitionist groups argue that PeTA follows a welfarist approach.

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Dog Laws & Legislation > What do you think of PETA?

Hoelle- Jagdhund- Jaeger

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Barked: Sun May 10, '09 10:18pm PST


	"Mazzy, PETA is not trying to save animals, they are working towards an ultimate goal of animal abolition." Animal abolition groups can save animals. They don't have to be separate things. Many animal abolition groups are pro no-kill and against euthanasia for perfectly healthy animals. They would be against using those dogs to perform deadly and unnecessary (for those animals) surgeries just to later kill them as well as just killing them at the shelter. If you're interested in learning more about animal abolition, here's Abolitionist Online.

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Dog Laws & Legislation > Cropping and docking of Dobies by the DPCA.

Hoelle- Jagdhund- Jaeger

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Barked: Sun May 10, '09 9:16pm PST


	Here are some all natural pooches I used to think that cropping and docking served a purpose... but now I'm thinking that breeders do it just because they like how it looks... Just because people once cropped and docked Dobies for some reason in the past, doesn't mean it was actually necessary. There are many protection as well as search and rescue dogs that do quite well with floppy ears and long tails. German Shepherds have long tails and Rotties have floppy ears. I doubt Dobies would be hindered much by having both, even if their tail curled over their back. Besides... I think I'd go nuts if I had my ears glued to one of those cones.

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Behavior & Training > i had a fight regarding henry

Hoelle- Jagdhund- Jaeger

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Barked: Tue Apr 28, '09 11:45am PST


	"Many are forced to live that life outside ONLY because the people in charge of them refuse to utilize other reasonable training tools and methods. They are prisoners because of close-mindedness." I think that's an unfair assessment... It's assuming that those dogs live terrible lives just because they are not with a human family. Animals can live wonderful lives at a sanctuary. Also, just because you use mostly positive reinforcement techniques, doesn't necessarily mean that you are unreasonable or close-minded... I doubt they refuse to use other techniques, they're just using the techniques they think is best.

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Dog Laws & Legislation > What do you think of PETA?

Hoelle- Jagdhund- Jaeger

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Barked: Tue Mar 31, '09 7:16pm PST


	Friends of Animals (though they lobby against PETA) has a similar future in mind, but do support no-kill. However, I do know that PETA dislikes the no-kill movement, and will likely never embrace it. It's a shame really. Yes it takes a lot of support to run a no-kill community. People support them by adopting from the shelters, by giving donations, volunteering, fostering etc. And people also can support them by being responsible pet owners. I think some shelters believe that there are more "irresponsible owners" than their are folks who are willing to make these communities work. I think this might be a faulty belief. I help out at a low/no cost spay/neuter program for low income families at a local shelter. When I started out, I was surprised to see how many folks brought in their pets to get them altered. Suddenly there was a downpour of "irresponsible" owners doing the "responsible" thing just because it was made more accessible to them. They weren't irresponsible, they just needed a little help. We gave them that and now they are no-kill supporters because they're helping the equation work.

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Dog Laws & Legislation > What do you think of PETA?

Hoelle- Jagdhund- Jaeger

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Barked: Tue Mar 31, '09 10:31am PST


	I don't know of a way to hold people accountable for their actions without (in some form) shame or punishment. We could try to educate them, by showing them where puppies in pet stores come from for example, but to hold them accountable for buying a pup from a pet store without making them feel ashamed is difficult. I definitely agree with you that our view of animals needs to change. But, can we change the way people in a community think about animals while we treat them (in the very places that are supposed to be saving them) as disposable? I think no-kill shelters are community oriented, which is what makes them work. What better way to change a community than from the inside out? I can't imagine what an organization as wealthy as, or who has as many dedicated followers as PETA could do just by putting the no-kill equation to work. What if they suddenly decided to make their "shelter" no-kill? I think they could accomplish great things. Moreover, I think it is their responsibility as an organization fighting for the rights of animals to stop killing their shelter animals while they hold the key to creating a no-kill community in the palm of their hands. If shelters can help stop the killing of animals within their own walls, then shouldn't they feel obligated to?

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