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Choosing the Right Dog > French bulldogs?
Lancer
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| Barked: Sat Jun 8, '13 1:14am PST |  |  |  |  | I checked the dogster's dog breed directory page, but didn't find anything on these guys. I'm just here asking for a friend who's family will most likely be getting one...
Personal experience? Second-hand experience? Temperament, health concerns? |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 8 posts. Last posting by Holly - CGC TDI, Jun 10 9:17 pm
Behavior & Training > Lancer's reactivity problem risen- nearly runs to his death
Lancer
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| Barked: Wed May 29, '13 10:39pm PST |  |  |  |  | That makes sense... I'd like to think that it's calming him more than repressing the behavior, but it very well could be just that.
With a behaviorist, would they simply dig out the root issue and give us an explanation, but still use the same conditioning/redirecting methods? Is there actually a way to fix the ROOT, or is it likely a permanent issue that we can only deal with on the surface, as we are now?
Is it likely that through this perhaps forced calm/repressed behavior that Lancer goes through when we go out in public, he will eventually just become desensitized to the stimulus as well? |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 4 posts. Last posting by Jackson Tan, Jun 1 1:25 am
Behavior & Training > Lancer's reactivity problem risen- nearly runs to his death
Lancer
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| Barked: Wed May 29, '13 9:45pm PST |  |  |  |  | Forgot to mention, if my mom is the one holding his leash, even if I'm walking with my mom, he has a much lower stress tolerance. As long as I'm the one holding his leash, then he becomes much more stable. |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 6 posts. Last posting by Jackson Tan, Jun 1 1:25 am
Behavior & Training > Lancer's reactivity problem risen- nearly runs to his death
Lancer
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| Barked: Wed May 29, '13 9:17pm PST |  |  |  |  | A VERY late reply... but I'm replying-
The trainer I posted ends up using the exact methods that the Petsmart trainer uses- redirecting, conditioning, and the whole positive reinforcement deal, which works VERY well on Kityra (my other dog), but apparently not at all on Lancer in this particular case... I only talked with her on the phone a couple weeks ago. I didn't schedule a private session.
Lancer's progressed greatly though in the past couple weeks. Like Ophelia, we're avoiding the dogs if possible. Or we stand from a tolerable distance and I praise him when he watches silently.
Here's another big issue I'm confused about with Lancer actually... when he walks with me, he is much more calm and tolerant of other dogs, cars, and people. I've discovered that when we see said stimulus, I simply bend down and tell him "you don't have to bark" in a stern (maybe threatening?) voice, which actually calms him down. Occassionally, he will still seem to start an anxiety attack, but if I say "come on Lancer" or "you don't have to bark" in that stern voice, he calms down. Even without saying those, he is much more stable when walking with me. Nowadays, he may only bark once or twice on our two hour walks, and only during too much stimulus (ex: a biker stops next to us, or a runner stops to talk to me) which is a huge improvement!
The case is that when he walks with my mom, he's a completely different dog- he becomes his old, volatile self, easily breaks tolerance and gets those old barking, whimpering, spinning anxiety attacks. I don't think she's any less confident a walker than I am, but her presence and commands do not help him calm down at all. My mom is the one home with him all the time, so she needs to be able to get this down... I'm not home very often. Anxiety attacks when with my mom may even have become a habit, according to the trainer I called before? I'm not very convinced though.
Any advice is appreciated.
ETA: Just a note on his improvement, he's able to VERY calmly walk on a busy street with me now! Bikers, runners, and groups of high schoolers going by are no biggie either, though he will still stare intently.
Though... when he's only with my mom, all of these things I just listed freak him out the same old way. |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 7 posts. Last posting by Jackson Tan, Jun 1 1:25 am
Behavior & Training > Does your dog have a crazy pet peeve?
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| Barked: Wed May 29, '13 8:46pm PST |  |  |  |  | I know Kityra has always had a strange hate for moving feet, dirty shoes, and anything related to feet. If I hop around or do some funky dance, she immediately gets into a fuss of angrily barking at my feet.
I bought a new ball for her today, and pushing it around got her all excited. So I decided to kick the ball around, and upon the first kick, she chomped down on my foot It actually drew quite a bit of blood, to my surprise.
Then the whole family and the dogs became sad for the rest of the day. I'm not sure Kityra's realized what she's done, but I'm never dancing or kicking anything in her presence again LOL. I was careless.
Anyone else's dog have a crazy pet peeve like this?
And, urr...... should I be worried? LOL |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 22 posts. Last posting by Mika, Jun 3 6:00 am
Choosing the Right Dog > Looking for a Cuddly Best Friend Dog
Lancer
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| Barked: Tue May 28, '13 8:26pm PST |  |  |  |  | Look into Cocker Spaniels! They seem to match your requirements quite perfectly- just need to clip their pendant ears above their heads when they eat to avoid dirty ears.
Also look into Havanese! All the ones I've met in rescue have been relaxed and easygoing.
I'm sure other people can tell you more about the breeds. Hope you get more suggestions. |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 2 posts. Last posting by Opheila, May 29 7:09 am
Behavior & Training > Lancer's reactivity problem risen- nearly runs to his death
Lancer
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| Barked: Sat May 11, '13 8:39pm PST |  |  |  |  | Oh hey, I found a trainer that lives in my area through the Association of Pet Dog Trainers website!
Here's her site.
http://pam4paws.com/Home.php
What do you guys think...? Should I try, or possible phony? |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 12 posts. Last posting by Jackson Tan, Jun 1 1:25 am
Behavior & Training > Lancer's reactivity problem risen- nearly runs to his death
Lancer
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| Barked: Sat May 11, '13 8:11pm PST |  |  |  |  | Thanks for the links Jackson! No need for rollover links heheh.
And thanks Gizmo for the book rec. I'll be getting that for sure.
I'm not sure where to find a specific reactivity trainer. Through a petsmart again? Probably not...
Speaking of removing stimuli that gets him riled up altogether... in your guys' opinion, should I be still attempting to get Lancer accustomed to stranger dogs, or go the route of avoidance? He's been fearful of stranger dogs ever since we got him, though now it's evolved into this aggression-rooted-in-fear thing.
I think I've mentioned this before in another thread, but Lancer has had a scarring experience at the dog park when he was around 5 months old that caused his initial shy-fear to turn into this aggressive-fear. A group of 10 or so dogs apparently hounded him when he and my mom were making their way out. Mom was supposedly bringing him during "quiet" times in an attempt to socialize him with other dogs, and eh... it went very well five timse, and the sixth time, that incident happened. Geez.
It makes me wonder if he ever will have the possibility of being calm around other dogs. Hermit and private parks for life?
Thanks for the suggestions regarding cars though. I think I'll try covering the window with a sheet first, if that's okay.  |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 13 posts. Last posting by Jackson Tan, Jun 1 1:25 am
Behavior & Training > Lancer's reactivity problem risen- nearly runs to his death
Lancer
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| Barked: Fri May 10, '13 9:28pm PST |  |  |  |  | May I ask what a roman or step in back clip is? I'm been trying to find the best harness available safe out there- not sure what's appropriate.
We have invested in a private trainer for 2 months- just some trainer from Petsmart. She used positive reinforcement methods: redirecting his attention whenever we spot a dog across the street or a car is about to drive by. It didn't end up working very efficiently... that's to say, his attention the dog or car would sometimes override his attention on me, and he would bark and pull a few anyway.
When we're on the road with him, he would stick his head out the window to bark at any car that drives by too. He quiets down when I tell him "quiet", but too many cars at once would still get him riled up again. I've initially (very initially.....) tried the whole conditioning deal, feeding him a treat whenever he sees a car, but that didn't help crap. He would just quickly take my treat before sticking his head out back to bark LOL. It's the same deal whether I leave the window opened or closed.
Thanks for the reply, Jackson. =) |  |  |  |  |
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» There has since been 21 posts. Last posting by Jackson Tan, Jun 1 1:25 am
Behavior & Training > Lancer's reactivity problem risen- nearly runs to his death
Lancer
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| Barked: Thu May 9, '13 7:05pm PST |  |  |  |  | I'm not sure if anyone lingering around still remembers Lancer's old problem of barking at everyone and everything that moves- this was a few months ago.
He's now 7.5 months old- socializing and training has been going quite well. He's learned to ignore (tolerate) stranger dogs on a walk and ignore cars driving by... Unfortunately, if another dog barks at him first, he's still unable to resist the urge to bark back. But his mind's still sane enough to listen to "quiet" commands.
Today, a new dog barked at Lancer from half a block away, causing him to already lose his cool- then at the same time, two cars drove by, and he abruptly went utterly insane in an attempt to chase after the cars, his leash somehow clipped loose, and my mom had to jump on him before he ran to his death.
We thought his issue had been trained to a safe degree, but this incident makes me think not... Too many things happening at the same time breaks his tolerance.
I wasn't with Lancer and Mom today, but I'll be home with them over the weekend to help out and think about how to further help his case.
I really need some advice on his issue.
Lancer is able to put up this mental shield to ignore the dogs and cars, but it's apparently too fragile. If my mom didn't jump on him, he would have been run over. I'm at my wits end. |  |  |  |  |
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