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can u tell me about the kennel club

  
kita

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Barked: Mon Jan 5, '09 11:08am PST
hello i am just wandering what other people thought about the kennel club. my dog is not registered with them she is registered by someone called dog lovers registration i have been looking for a stud here in England and when i did speak to someone all these rules about how my dog should look i don't want to breed her for show or for money i wanted her to have the opportunity to be a mum and to keep her blood line going i was quite disappointed really
Ursa Bella- Minima

I'm a hound- dog...
 
 
Barked: Wed Jan 7, '09 10:47pm PST
I registered Ursa, but really only because her litter was already registered. I spayed her and apparently the white markings she has would make her undesirable as a show dog anyway. The breeder I got her from then had one flat fee, but has since changed in price slightly between pups with partial and full (breeding) registration. To some AKC, CKC or what have you makes a difference, but to others, who are looking for a healthy, well bred dog, it doesn't mean all that much as the standards for many of these clubs aren't as high as they used to be. The more important thing is the health (OFA, CERF, etc.) and well being of the dogs...
Tuck

tracking dog
 
 
Barked: Tue Feb 3, '09 2:19pm PST
Your registration is a fake registry. Unfortunately, your breeder duped you. That doesn't make your dog any less beautiful or valueable to you, but it does mean she's not registrable by a valid registry. No reputable breeder would discuss breeding her.
But to a reputable breeder, just being registered is not enough. Breed clubs are doing everything they can to breed healthier dogs, and better temperamented ones as well.

So generally applicants for breeding need to show a handful of health testing that has been done before being considered for breeding. Generally breeders not only want health certifications for the dog to be considered for breeding, but the health certifications of the parents and grand parents etc for generations.

I know I want to see 7 generations of health testing. I understand that in the UK purebreds are on the firing line because they consider purebreds unhealthy.
But breeders who are doing all the health testing are actually breeding MUCH healthier dogs than your average mutt.

A bitch owner must do a lot of homework before considering breeding their dog and present their homework to a prospective stud dog owner for consideration.

They must provide certification numbers to assure that the eyes are clear of hereditary health problems
The tests that should be evaluated for an elkhound are

HIPS
EYES
THYROID
KIDNEYS

Breeders generally want to know that a candidate is within the breed standard. Titles are permanent recordings in a pedigree that the dog is so.

Here are Tuck's prerequisites. These are the kind of figures that a breeder wants and needs to see before considering a breeding.
http://shell2.lomag.net/~moosedog/Tuck/stats.html

Being the same breed is not enough. Being a male and female is not enough.

Being registered by a real registry is a no-brainer.

Ursa Bella- Minima

I'm a hound- dog...
 
 
Barked: Wed Feb 11, '09 10:26pm PST
I just reread what I wrote and I just wanted to clear up that I wasn't referencing having a healthy dog to be able to breed was more important than a registration... I meant having a healthy dog in general is the most important thing, that it is more important than breeding or not breeding, kennel clubs or not... There are people who breed dogs not for shows, but if those people are responsible and all the health testing is done, then the registration tends to accompany the dog, because it is a good way to show their dogs fall within the standard and the family history. As I mentioned, I registered Ursa, because it was basically done for me. I never had any intention of breeding her, but I know she has come from a good family. If I didn't register her, she is still the same quality dog as her sister or sisters who have had litters and that is really what matters to me... I'm sure there are people in the kennel clubs who don't see a point to registering a dog that won't be bred, but I felt following through with it was a testament to Ursa's family and a good thing to do. It doesn't make her anymore more or less popular at the dog park. laugh out loud