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Myths about Pitt Bulls.....

   
Levi

A doggie treat- cures all ills		 
 
Barked: Thu Oct 18, '07 12:02pm PST 
This is a thread to dispell myths about our wonderful breed. Pitty's are so missunderstood, hopefully we can end some of the myths that are out there....
Levi

A doggie treat- cures all ills		 
 
Barked: Thu Oct 18, '07 12:16pm PST 
Recently we, my sister and I, were fostered from a local rescue. We were very small and lived with our foster mother for several months. The rescue had told my foster mother that they had a rule agianst adopting siblings together, because of animal agression. We were not agressive at all and had become accostomed to our new lifestyle. Our foster mother was a stay at home mom and took us everywhere, we bonded quickly. My foster Mother asked if she could adopt me knowing that their rule stood that fostering siblings together was "dangerous" and would cause us behavioral issues, she did not even try for Emma right away. Before long she knew Emma was supposed to stay with us. The rescue absolutely denied her adoption, and hurried another adoption through. My foster mom wrote many breeders and behavioral specialists and found their theory to be unfounded. She begged and pleaded, the trescue called it harassing. All grandma was trying to do is keep my sissy in our home. We no longer foster for this rescue, because of several of it's practices, but I would like to help dispell some of the myths out there about we pitties....Help me by posting some of the experiences you have had. Levi
Grizzly (adopted)

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Barked: Sat Oct 20, '07 2:49am PST 
Let's be fair...

1. You did not express interest in adopting Emma until we located this adoption prospect.

2. Right up until then, you frequently reminded us of Emma's need for a forever home and expressed concerns that if we didn't find Emma a home soon, she would no longer be an "adoptable puppy." You also mentioned your frustrations of Emma chewing things, howling at the alarm clock, and having trouble housebreaking and because of those things, your husband was anxious to find her a home.

3. The adoption was not "hurried through" but, in fact, give the same consideration, if not more, of all the animals we place. Correspondence with the adopter took place nearly a month prior to placement.

4. You, against our advice, were allowing the puppies no time away from each other, including crating them together, which is not safe.

5. You forwarded us multiple e-mails from backyard breeders and puppy mills (or "experts" as you called them), where their dogs were pictured on chains and in kennel runs, yet not a single e-mail from an animal behaviorist.

Edited by author Sat Oct 20, '07 3:03am PST

Grizzly (adopted)

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Barked: Sat Oct 20, '07 7:50pm PST 
6. Despite being aware of our policy from before you began to foster, you reneged on your foster agreement by suddenly abandoning two puppies, as a result of this rule.

7. You chose to call, e-mail, and leave many voicemail's daily, knowing we were caring for two terminally ill dogs and knowing our policy was not going to change despite your ultimatums and harassment.

8. Not mentioning our group name when it's already clear what group your talking about does not protect you from libel and slander lawsuits when spreading lies online.

Julie Oliver
Attorney-at-Law

Myth: pit bull is spelled with two "T's".
Levi

A doggie treat- cures all ills		 
 
Barked: Sun Oct 21, '07 3:48pm PST 
Oh please, I have no bad feelings about your group as a whole. Nothing Isaid was slanderous. And if you would read the other forums I make it very clear that I have a great respect for the group I fostered for, that this decision I did not agree with. And if you want to get down to the brass tax, you had no issue with the way I housed or fostered those puppies until I made it clear that I did not feel comfortable fostering anymore. As for the emails, this is the only way to contact you. It takes repeated calls and emails to get intouch with you. I am not the only one that have issues with that. You are both busy and on doggy runs regularly, Emails are the best way to contact either of us, I very rarely can be contacted at my home.

As for not using the name of your group. No one that I emailed was given the name of your rescue, I wanted unbiased information. I emailed breeders, I have no idea who are or are not backyard breeders, i sent them to a list on line, and contacted several dog trainers and dog behaviorists. Many did not send me back replies and the ones I sent you were the first on my list. I did this because I was hoping some one would validate your beliefs. I have since them and on a forum or two, found some that agree withyou. You may be right. Up until the last few emails and your shortness in patience with a foster mom heart broken at the rehomeing of one of her specisl fosters, I had the greatest respect for what you said. You know as well as I do that if you called i droppped everything to come running no matter the time. And I made every meet and greet but 1, and I was the only foster mom that showed up. I realize we do not see eye to eye on everything, but You know I love my animals and I know you do the best you can for yours. Truce.....I want to get on with my life and enjoy Levi. For anyone who reads this, This conversation is personal, Please do not think this is a bad rescue. We went through a bad time with several termanilly ill dogs and emotions are high. There were spersonal issues on both sides. I have a great respect for Jack's Fur Angels.

You may email me at my home address, because i fo not want to air the rescue name and issues on a forum, not good for rescue in general.
Levi

A doggie treat- cures all ills		 
 
Barked: Sun Oct 21, '07 4:35pm PST 
I opened this forum to share and dispell myths about pitt bulls, tell us your stories.
Grizzly (adopted)

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Barked: Sun Oct 21, '07 11:26pm PST 
"My foster Mother asked if she could adopt me knowing that their rule stood that fostering siblings together was "dangerous" and would cause us behavioral issues, she did not even try for Emma right away."

You made it very clear that you were anxious to find Emma a home during the time she was fostered in your home and complained frequently about her various normal puppy behaviors bothering your husband.

"The rescue absolutely denied her adoption, and hurried another adoption through."

JoDee, that's a blatant lie. You know that Emma's adopter communicated with us and went through our adoption process over a month's time. Nothing about Emma's placement was hurried through. It wasn't until well into that time and when plans were being made for her to meet Emma that you suddenly wanted to adopt her.

"And if you want to get down to the brass tax, you had no issue with the way I housed or fostered those puppies until I made it clear that I did not feel comfortable fostering anymore."

You were always aware of our feelings on crating puppies together, especially as they are becoming adolescents. You abandoned two other foster puppies when we enforced a rule you were aware of from before you began fostering.

"I emailed breeders, I have no idea who are or are not backyard breeders, i sent them to a list on line, and contacted several dog trainers and dog behaviorists. Many did not send me back replies and the ones I sent you were the first on my list."

There was not a single E-mail forwarded from a trainer or behaviorist, despite your initial claims that several had already explained our rule was unfounded. Why didn't you forward these? I would be more interested to hear what they had to say than a disreputable breeder. Every E-mail forwarded was from breeders that could easily be identified as backyard breeders or puppymills, each owning dozens of poorly bred dogs kept on chains or in outdoor kennels.

"Up until the last few emails and your shortness in patience with a foster mom heart broken at the rehomeing of one of her specisl fosters, I had the greatest respect for what you said."

Your were treated with respect throughout your many calls/e-mails where you begged us to consider your "heartbreak" of placing Emma into a great forever home, despite the fact that the many calls/e-mails demanded tremendous amount of time from caring for two dogs in the end stages of terminal illness and heartbreak of saying good-bye to two of our dearest family members.

"This conversation is personal, Please do not think this is a bad rescue. We went through a bad time with several termanilly ill dogs and emotions are high."

Then why did you bring this to an online community that our rescue group has been a part of for more than two years? It's no mystery that Levi was adopted from our rescue organization.

"We went through a bad time with several termanilly ill dogs and emotions are high."

It was our family caring for two terminally ill dogs, both of whom, as you know/knew, lost their battles during the period in which we received daily calls/e-mails from you begging to keep Emma.

Edited by author Sun Oct 21, '07 11:27pm PST