Goldendoodle coat changes and phases


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Barked: Mon Oct 8, '07 9:39pm PST 
Many people have the wrong impression about the Goldendoodle coat...the type of coat and about shedding. Quite a few Goldendoodle breeders place erroneous information about the Goldendoodle on their website because they are either inexperienced breeders and only going by what they have read over the internet, or they are using certain words as a sales tactic. Here are the facts about the Goldendoodle coat:

Every Goldendoodle starts out looking like a Golden Retriever when first born. First generation Goldendoodles, thatis. Back-bred, in-bred or line-bred doodles have entirely more Poodle than Golden Retriever may not have the appearance of a Golden Retriever when first born because of the lack of Golden Retriever in its genetic make up. Instead, they may have many ripples on the coat which indicates a possible curly coat and curly face as they get a bit older.

In all the years we've been an experienced, private breeder, we know for a fact (based on personal experience) that Goldendoodles will have a thicker, longer, shaggier coat as an adult if within hours of their birth, many ripples appear on their coat. Goldendoodles who will have a shaggy coat, but a shorter shag, have very few ripples, if that at all. Goldendoodle puppies who have more ripples in their coat as a newborn will have a shaggy face by the age of 8 weeks and their coat will be fluffier by age 8 wks than those who have fewer ripples in the coat right after birth. Should a breeder create Goldendoodles by backbreeding a Goldendoodle to a Golden Retriever, the coat could be much flatter and could technically shed just as much as a Golden Retriever. However, since October 2007, we have come to know that if a Goldendoodle sire with twice the Poodle DNA is bred to a purebred Golden Retriever, then the majority of the offspring does still have a shaggy coat and is low shedding but that one or two of the offspring will have an identical appearance as that of the Golden Retriever to include being void of a facial beard. However, that doodle will still shed very little, if at all! The male sire however MUST be a Goldendoodle with twice the Poodle DNA. All of the offspring created in this manner will have a Golden Retriever temperament. If a Goldendoodle sire with twice the Poodle is bred to a purebred Poodle, all of the offspring will have near identical Poodle traits as well as more purebred Poodle disposition.

Although many breeders claim in their advertisements and upon their websites that their backbred Goldendoodles are "hypoallergenic" and "non shedding" dogs..they are quite wrong and falsely presenting their doodles. All their backbred Goldendoodles are is at a higher risk for genetic ailments. The fact they have backbred to create doodles means little for shedding and hypoallergenic purposes. Any Goldendoodle bred to an unrelated Poodle will have the same amount of low shedding as a Golden Retriever that is bred to a Poodle. It has been our experience that we see both coat types (Shaggy/wavy and shaggy/wavy with loose curls) even if one parent is a Goldendoodle and one parent is an unrelated Poodle. It has also been our recent experience as of October 2007 that we see doodles with a shaggy coat even if they have twice the Golden Retriever DNA providing the sire to the litter is a Goldendoodle with twice the Poodle DNA. In this instance, as described above, at least 1 or 2 of the offspring will have an identical appearance of a purebred Golden Retriever to include being void of the shaggy coat and void of the facial beard. That particular appearance will still have a very low shedding coat.

A Goldendoodle puppy will go through many, many coat phases as it nears its first birthday. Why is this? Because the coat they have from birth to the age of 8 weeks is mere "puppy fuzz". Shedding begins at the age of 8 weeks, believe it or not! I know they just got their shagginess, but it begins to fall out strand by strand. But don't fret!

As the hair begins to fall out strand by strand, the adult coat is coming in at the same time. So, no...your doodle won't be a bald doodle! We have photos showing different stages of coat changes up to the age of 8 months. We stopped taking photos after the age of 8 months because at that point, they only have 4 more months of coat growth/changes and nothing really occurs except their coat just keeps getting longer. As an adult, they will loose strands of hair off and on, but you will see entirely less shedding once they are an adult and it is really amazing because of all that hair they have!

A Goldendoodle's coat is NOT hypo-allergenic. If you visit many allergy websites, you will see that it is a fact that there is no such thing as a "hypo-allergenic" dog. We have an article listed with WEBMD regarding allergies and Goldendoodles and hypo-allergenic dogs after we were interviewed by Star Johnson. She did get the interview incorrect about how we started....but alot of the other info is correct. You can probably find our interview with WEBMD at and search under dogs and alleries. While a Goldendoodle is NOT a hypo-allergenic dog, they do work out well for many people who have allergies. The reason is simple. Their coat has less dander and they lose their hair one strand at a time and they don't shed like regular dogs. This occurs with most Poodle hybrids...not just the Goldendoodle. It is very important for people to know that a Labradoodle's coat is much different from a Goldendoodle's coat. The reason for this is because it is difficult for a Poodle's softness to come through dense, course, tough hair of short haired dogs.

Unless a labradoodle has been back-bred, line-bred or in-bred, you will not see the same kind of coat as that of a Goldendoodle. Rather, the Labradoodle who is the first generation looks more like a wired haired terrier of sorts.

Personally, I do not like this look but many people do and that's okay. Breeders can not give anyone a guarantee that they will do well with any breed when allergies are involved. It is also very irresponsible of people to ask a breeder if they can handle their poodle hybrid puppies to "see if they get an allergic reaction". We definitely do not allow this because we don't know what kind of reaction can occur if someone does have an allergy to a doodle and we are not going to place our business in jeapordy. If you are an allergy sufferer, it is best to visit your local animal shelter or humane society to see if they have any poodle mixes you can visit with. Be aware that while you may not have an allergic response to an adult Doodle....or Poodle could have an allergic reaction to a puppy at various stages of shedding.

This is why it is not reasonable to expect that if you have no reaction to a doodle at one phase of shedding, that you won't have a reaction at a differant phase of shedding. Some allergy sufferers have allergic responses to the saliva of an animal and these people may not be able to ever own a dog of any breed. The best person to help you with your allergy issues, is your allergist. Not the breeder.

Over all, we have many customers who purchase one of our doodles and they do not have any allergy issues with them.

But we don't lump everyone in a group and then say that because of this, everyone can do well with a Goldendoodle. That is just not factual information. For more information about Goldendoodles, coat colors, shedding issues and allergy issues, visit our website at or

Reference Box: Dee Gerrish Goldendoodle World

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Barked: Tue May 5, '09 6:09pm PST 
yeh....buddy's coat used 2 be very its a light orange that almost looks white