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Baby Girl

i got my eyes on- you
 
 
Barked: Wed Apr 16, '08 8:36am PST 
I don't know what to do. I have had Babygirl for almost 6 years now. When we found her, she was in not so great shape. She was so scared, shaking, that I had to pick her up to put her in the car to take her home. She had a huge gash on the top of her head and cuts and scars on her paws and nose. About 4 years ago, she attacked another one of my dogs, almost killing her. I had reached down to try to break them up and got bit. I didn't have a car and my thumb was a "7" so i had to call an ambulance. Because of this, they quaranteened Babygirl and tattoo'd her as a bite dog. She's not a bite dog! I was trying to break them up. She didn't attack me. We got thru that, and things were going good. Two years later she attacked another dog, and this dog didn't live. Yesterday, she did it again to one of our dogs. I don't know what to do. My hubby made the comment "when is it enough", and i can't answer that. I thought of putting her down, but my heart can't. I thought of taking her to a rescue, but i keep thinking of how scared and terrified she is around other people, plus she has that damn bite tat. They'd put her down anyway. I spoke with my mom and she said she will take her. I just don't understand why she did this. I'm so heartbroken and confused and angry. I keep wondering if Peeper had maybe snipped at her (he does this) and something snapped?? Can anyone help me with this? I know people will say "i'd kill her" or "i'd put her down" however you don't know what you'd do until you're in the situation.
I'd never beat or mistreat my animals, however last night i had the urge to get up and beat the hell outta her for what she done, but i don't think she really understands. I dunno.
Portos- (19/01/95 - 13/07/07)

Praying hard for- Postal
 
 
Barked: Thu Apr 17, '08 2:14am PST 
I'm really so sorry you are having problems with Babygirl, and no, I won't tell you to put her down or send her to a shelter.
There are just two things I can tell you: one, Babygirl needs a behaviorist, I understand she's not aggressive to humans, but think she's becoming more and more aggressive to other dogs, and this is a very bad problem. Second, if your mom wants to take care of her, this is ok, as long as in any case you consult a behaviorist, and do it the sooner you can.
Please keep us updated about Babygirl, ok?
hughughug
Pawnee de la- Maison du- Soleil

Born to play !
 
 
Barked: Thu Apr 17, '08 7:57am PST 
Portos is absolutely right.
Patient work with a behaviourist is obviously needed.
But also whoever cares for Baby Girl has to be extremely careful never to let her be in situations where she might harm an other dog. She has to be in a fenced yard and her humans have to check that she does not get away, no one must ever forget to close gates and doors. She is always to be walked on a lead.
Think also about the pups who get bitten or killed.... How awful...
Baby Girl requires extra attention both for herself and to protect other pups.
Your mum has to be made very aware of this.
Good luck.

Baby Girl

i got my eyes on- you
 
 
Barked: Thu Apr 17, '08 10:22am PST 
I spoke with a trainer yesterday. He said that it sounded like it was a pack thing where he was actin as alpha whereas she thinks she's alpha of the pack. He said those are the worst types of dog bites. However, he did tell me about a dog day care thing they have that I'm going to try. I'd drop her off in the morning and get her in the evening. He said that the trainers and other people go in and evaluate her and work with her and gives her an environment that she can learn to get used to people. She's never been agressive towards people. As for the fence, it's a privacy fence, and the only way to get out is thru the house, which we have to go thru 2 doors to get out so that's impossible, and thru another closed gate that seperates the fence gate from the backyard. It's a little area that has the a/c unit and stuff like that, so they can't get back there. I don't really take her out much due to how she acts. She gets so scared and terrified at every little sound that it makes it hard to walk her. I am hoping that, with the dog day care, maybe they can help her out more. He gave me a website to research agression in wolves which said would help me understand the dog "pack" mentality.
Thanks for your insight. I will ask about a behavioralist as well. I'll let you know how it goes. Peeper will be home next friday, so i'm hoping to do something with his dogster page.
Again, thanks
Pawnee de la- Maison du- Soleil

Born to play !
 
 
Barked: Thu Apr 17, '08 12:22pm PST 
Please be very careful.
Baby Girl is a fragile dog, hence her agressive behaviour. It may be a pack thing but you report that she agressed dogs which were NOT in her pack and you don't mention that any ot your other dogs joined in the agression.
I guess the trainer you talked to asked the right questions and had more info than I do (and was a pro which I am not).
Still leaving such a fragile dog "in the morning" and getting her back "in the evening" is scary to me... as it might be to her.
The best work I have ever witnessed done on difficult dogs was ALWAYS WITH THEIR OWNER.
I know that things are different here in Europe and in the States.... but dogs are the same.
Do make serious inquiries about the place and the people you will entrust Baby Girl to.... Please do !
Baby Girl

i got my eyes on- you
 
 
Barked: Thu Apr 17, '08 8:06pm PST 
Pawnee...i did ask questions and belive me, i am worried on how she will react, but the trainer i spoke with said that he's had many people do this and it helped. The dogs that she attacked were other pets of mine so they're not some stranger's dog yanno. I really can't tell everything that he said, so i just mentioned a small amount before as i can't remember everything. She has been away in quarenteen for 10 days and that was hard on her and us, but she did ok. I don't think that she'll have too big of problem with one day, esp. when she realizes that i'll be back to get her.
Pawnee de la- Maison du- Soleil

Born to play !
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 18, '08 3:42am PST 
I'll keep my paws crossed for you Baby Girl.
Let us know how it goes. If this place which will take her for a day (is it only ONE day ?) has any information on line on what they are doing, I would be very interested to read about it.
Wishing you the best.
Baby Girl

i got my eyes on- you
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 18, '08 8:36am PST 
Pawnee~~
It's really more than a day. It's 12.00 a day and i can take her however many days so it's not just one day. The place itself is Man's Best Friend and the trainer seems to know what he's doing and he is a behaviorist too so that's even better.
http://www.k9trainerandbehaviorist.com/
That's his website. Just to look if ya want. He's done K-9 training as well. So we'll see i guess. I"ll keep yall updated. I'm thinking maybe one day next week we'll try it out and see how she does
Baby Girl

i got my eyes on- you
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 18, '08 8:39am PST 
P.S. Here's the link to Peeper's site if interested.
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/395658
Portos- (19/01/95 - 13/07/07)

Praying hard for- Postal
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 18, '08 9:18am PST 
Babygirl, keep us updated, ok? You'll see everything will be fine, and yes, I think you may go and take a look to what they are doing, as you may know both of us are having problems with our babies and need to learn a couple of tricks.

Hugs,

Portos
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