Ollie needs some advice!!!

  
(Page 1 of 2: Viewing entries 1 to 10)  
Page Links: 1  2  
Ollie

417081
 
 
Barked: Tue Oct 30, '07 1:41pm PST 
Hi all bassadors!!

I have a problem I was wondering if any of the rest of you have suffered. I am 13 months old now and a week or so ago I started limping for no reason. So my humans decided it was time to take me to the vet. They were giving me doggy asprin before that to help the pain. The doctor started touching my leg from my toes up and reached my shoulder, when he started to rotate my leg I yelped and it popped. He said I need x-rays. The problem with that is they cost between 5-7 hundred dollars so my humans are taking me to see another vet who is known to be cheaper.

I was wondering if any of you guys have experienced the pain I have. I thought maybe it could be because my little legs are holding me up!! I only weigh 45 pounds but that's still alot for my little legs.

Rank roo!!

Ollie
Jenny

This dog can- fly.
 
 
Barked: Tue Oct 30, '07 2:20pm PST 
Jenny also only weighs 45 lbs, but occasionally will start limping for no reason. Vets can't figure it out, because it usually goes away after a week or two of rest. It seems that she is just very clumsy and just bumps or twists her leg, also, one of her feet never seems to be straight, she is poorly built, but with management and sometimes just needing to take a break from exercise she has always gotten better. It is very sad to see your dog hurt, but sometimes it just needs time to heal.
Ollie

417081
 
 
Barked: Thu Nov 1, '07 7:34am PST 
Yeah, we tried that but it didn't seem to work. We have another appt. with a different vet on Saturday, hopefully he will say something different

Ruby

love, bark and- eat everything
 
 
Barked: Sat Nov 3, '07 9:53pm PST 
well guys you know we do have Basset blood and we seem to have problems with our shoulder/elbow area and hips. I only weigh in at 35lbs... I guess I'm a little small... I look like I weigh more though. I am also 13 months and a week or two... I hope you get to feeling better Ollie..
we ruv roo!!
Gage

I *DO* belong on- the couch!
 
 
Barked: Mon Nov 19, '07 7:12pm PST 
Hi Ollie!
I just came back from the vet today, because I haven't been able to put hardly any weight on my right rear leg. He said I have Long Bone Disease (Panoesteitis). I have limped before but only a day or so. This time I have been favoring my leg for a whole week! The bad news is that there isn't much the vet can do for me - he gave me some anti-inflammatory pain pills that are stronger than the aspirin mommy was giving me, but I can't have many of those - only if it is really bad. He says the pain will come and go and may shift legs until I am about 2 years old! By then, I should outgrow it. Meanwhile, I am very sad to hear that I can't play football with my boy or go on long walks with mommy when it is hurting me.
By the way, my vet did take x-rays (he gave me medicine to make me sleepy while he took the pictures) and I had to stay all afternoon at the vet! But the bill was nowhere near 5-7 hundred dollars. Including my new medicine, it was just over 100 dollars. Still a lot of money, but worth it to know why I hurt!! Maybe you should call some new doctors!!
Best Wishes-
Gage
Ollie

417081
 
 
Barked: Tue Nov 20, '07 7:06am PST 
Well my leg is now feeling better and there is no need for x-rays. The doctor still isn't sure what was wrong with me and my mom did take me to a new vet that was much cheaper. He said that if the limp came back then they should bring me back to the docs to get x-rays. So hopefully I will be okay. thanks for all your concern!!

Lots of licks,
Ollie
Coal

Huh? Ok!
 
 
Barked: Sun Aug 31, '08 11:02am PST 
Hi Ollie & the gang,

I just wanted to jump (or rather limp) in on this topic because I see a few of you Bassador owners have dealt with the limping issue. Coal has always had a limp that has come and gone and has been worse after vigorous activity, and I never really was too concerned about it until recently. A few months ago he fell on his right shoulder and then it seemed, or maybe it's just me, that he was limping especially with that front right paw.

Then, a couple weeks ago after a good run at the dog park, he suddenly developed what is termed a 'seroma' above his right elbow, on the humerus, due to some type of trauma (probably at the dog park). It's ping-pong ball sized, and filled with clear pinkish fluid. I took him to the vet and he lanced it & started him on antibiotics, but then it came back after 3 days. Using the lances the vet gave us, I re-lanced it last night, and have put a good firm wrap on it to keep it from filling up with fluid again (I'm a nurse if that eases your mind smile ). If it continues to recur, we may have to put in a drain. The vet doesn't know for sure if the limp and the seroma are related...but I was wondering if the two issues could be due to inflammation of the tissues...

As for the limp, the vet recommended glucosamine supplements. I found these on my own:

http://www.mothernature.com/shop/detail.cfm/sku/72305/S/4001 18

I'll let you know if they work. The vet also said that if the limp persists, we may also get X-rays to rule out bone chips. And lastly, he mentioned 'aching long bones' or panosteitis... which I see is what Gage's vet told him. And, we're keeping him on a slim diet. He's 55 pounds now, and the vet said that was a good weight but not to let him get much heavier. So we've started tapering his meals down from 3 cups per day to 2 cups per day.

I don't know if this will help anyone else having this problem. I remembered this thread when Coal's limp became a concern to us. If anyone else has any input, it would be much appreciated!!!

Hugs & wags~
Kelli & Coal

Edited by author Sun Aug 31, '08 11:22am PST

Cola

Bassadors Rock!
 
 
Barked: Thu Sep 4, '08 10:37am PST 
Hello Everyone,

Sadly Cola limps as well, she is only 6 months... Her front right leg is the issue. She will be okay for a few days then hurt her leg and limp for a week sometimes more. Then this weekend was super scary! Cola was playing with another bigger friend and all of a sudden she cried out in pain and continued to cry for about two and one half minutes( thats scary). Everyone around swore they heard a giant" POP"! After about 15 minutes of worrying she was back to normal walking around wanting to play but of course she had a limp. The vet said her shoulders and her knees are really strong so there shouldn't be an issue.( I don't believe him) However he did say after Cola is done growing we could do an x-ray. It kind of scares me that all you others have the same problems frown

Anyways thats my leg pain story and similar to most of your stories there seems to be no answers. I hope all you guys get better!

Cola

Bassadors Rock!
 
 
Barked: Thu Sep 4, '08 10:43am PST 
A co-worker of mine told me about this because her Basset Hound has this issue. From what I have read it is very common to Labs as well. But it only presents in the hind legs.

Luxating Patella
Race Foster, DVM
Marty Smith, DVM
Drs. Foster & Smith, Inc.



A dog from one of the smaller breeds runs across the yard chasing a tossed ball. In mid-stride, he yelps in pain and pulls his left hind leg off of the ground. After a second, he continues limping on in a three-legged fashion. After ten minutes, the rear leg drops back down to the ground and he uses it normally. This episode occurs maybe once a week. It never really seems to bother him that much – a yelp of pain, a short period of lameness, and in a few minutes he is back to his old self. Typically, he is a small or toy breed such as a Lhasa Apso, Pekingese, Pomeranian, Poodle, or Boston Bull.
A luxating patella may affect some animals much more severely. They may hold the leg up for several days and show considerable discomfort. Dogs who have a luxating patella on both hind legs may change their entire posture, by dropping their hindquarters and holding the rear legs farther out from the body as they walk. Those most severely affected may not even use their rear legs, walking by balancing themselves on their front legs like a circus act, or holding their hindquarters completely off the ground.

Normal knee anatomy

The patella is the bone we know as the knee cap. A groove in the end of the femur allows the patella to glide up and down when the knee joint is bent back and forth. In doing so, the patella guides the action of the quadriceps muscle in the lower leg. The patella also protects the knee joint.

Looking at the lower front portion of the femur (the thigh bone) in a normal dog, you will notice two bony ridges that form a fairly deep groove in which the patella is supposed to slide up and down. These structures limit the patella’s movement to one restricted place, and in doing so, control the activity of the quadriceps muscle.

The entire system is constantly lubricated by joint fluid. It works so that there is total freedom of motion between the structures.

What occurs when the patella is luxated?

In some dogs, because of malformation or trauma, the ridges forming the patellar groove are not prominent, and a too-shallow groove is created. In a dog with shallow grooves, the patella will luxate (jump out of the groove) sideways, especially toward the inside. This causes the leg to 'lock up' with the foot held off the ground.

When the patella luxates from the groove of the femur, it usually cannot return to its normal position until the quadriceps muscle relaxes and increases in length. This explains why the affected dog may be forced to hold his leg up for a few minutes or so after the initial incident. While the muscles are contracted and the patella is luxated from its correct position, the joint is held in the flexed or bent position. The yelp is from the pain caused by the knee cap sliding across the bony ridges of the femur. Once out of position, the animal feels no discomfort and continues his activity.

Which dogs are at risk of having a luxated patella?

Smaller breeds of dogs, especially Miniature and Toy Poodles, have the highest incidence of patella luxation. Genetics can play a role.

In certain breeds that have extremely short legs such as the Basset Hound or Dachshund, patellar luxation is thought to be secondary to the abnormal shape of the femur and tibia. The curvatures of the bones in these breeds work in conjunction with the forces of the quadriceps muscles to displace the patella to the inside. Please do not misunderstand – not all members of these breeds are affected with patellar luxation, only a small portion.

What are the symptoms?

Most dogs are middle-aged, with a history of intermittent (on-again-off-again) lameness in the affected rear leg(s). An affected dog commonly stops and cries out in pain as he is running. The affected leg will be extended rearward, and for a while, the dog is unable to flex it back into the normal position.

What are the risks?

Uncorrected, the patellar ridges will wear, the groove will become even shallower and the dog will become progressively more lame. Arthritis will prematurely affect the joint, causing a permanently swollen knee with poor mobility. Therefore, a good evaluation needs to be done by your veterinarian early in the condition to prevent long-term arthritic crippling.

Treatment for luxating patellas

As would be expected, medical therapy has little corrective ability in this disorder and surgery is therefore required and is the treatment of choice. A surgical treatment is not necessary in every individual with this condition.

Surgery can alter both the affected structures and the movement of the patella. The groove at the base of the femur may be surgically deepened to better contain the knee cap. The knee cap itself may be 'tied down' laterally (on the outside) to prevent it from deviating medially (toward the inside). The bony protuberance at the site of the attachment of the quadriceps tendon on the tibia, may be cut off and then re-attached in a more lateral position. All of these procedures work well and the type performed depends on the individual case and the clinician. The animal should respond quickly after surgery and is usually completely recovered within thirty days, using his legs in normal fashion.

Breeding considerations

Because of the strong genetic relationships, we really feel that animals with this disorder should not be used for breeding. They can still be excellent pets - and those that do require surgery will usually lead perfectly normal lives without any restrictions on activity.
Coal

Huh? Ok!
 
 
Barked: Fri Sep 5, '08 10:17am PST 
I just talked to a co-worker yesterday about her lab pup, who had luxating patellas and needed surgery for it. She tells me it's a congenital condition. They're expecting a full recovery.

As for Coal's seroma, the pressure wrap I applied after the second lancing seems to have worked. The seroma has not recurred and his limp, at least for the meantime, is dormant. wink 'Tis a good thing, as his little tail is backpacking with us in Montana next week. Guess I'll pack some ACE wraps and aspirin. way to go

Edited by author Fri Sep 5, '08 10:20am PST

  (Page 1 of 2: Viewing entries 1 to 10)  
Page Links: 1  2