I wasn't talking about the group name, just what some said. Not that I don't believe people have the right to free speech. I'm just saying, there's advantages and disadvantages with both sides. I'm the best dog my mistress has ever owned. I completely agree that Shelties are top dogs, but then (in my and my msitress's opinion) so are Collies. My mistress is going to breed Shelties and Collies someday.