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flyball box tips

  
Kai

I'm the water- baby!
 
 
Barked: Tue Nov 3, '09 8:47pm PST
I seem to be having a hard time with the flyball box. I keep doing the "bunny hop" around/over the box instead of making contact with it. Any tips or ideas?
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Silk, CGC,- FM, TFP-1

I'm the guard- dog! Mom! Save- me!!
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 4:38am PST
Stand up at the box with your dog, you put one foot at the base of the box and stand sideways (so your body makes the "stick" of a "T"). Use a toy, ball, treat (not recommended) to lure the dog around your body. When the dog touches the box at all, praise and reward (toss toy or ball). Slowly build speed and height. This teaches a nice tight smooth turn as well as getting them used to to box.
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Kai

I'm the water- baby!
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 12:03pm PST
We've tried that and putting the cone in front of the box and luring. I jump over and so does my border collie class mate. The instructor said its a herding dog thing.
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Silk, CGC,- FM, TFP-1

I'm the guard- dog! Mom! Save- me!!
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 1:49pm PST
Then back away from the box and start by training the path without the contact. You just need to build the skill and familiarity.
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Mathilda - FDCh

Silly Tilly
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 4:48pm PST
Are you using a box or a training chute? You should use a training chute first - it does not have the pedal or as steep a grade so it is not as scary to start.


Have you done any hup-hup exercises, learning the box turn by jumping over a piece of eavestrough on the flat before adding in the chute? We did this exercise gradually moving the eavestrough closer until the dog puts 1 foot on then closer again and closer again until they land on the chute and then push off. Only after a dog can do close up work on the chute successfully, then full runs on the chute successfully do we start them on a run to the box. Our box has a sponge that attaches with velcro just below the ball hole. We start without loading the ball, just resting it on the sponge until the dog is used to the feel and noise of the pedal. I used to have a link to a whole page of info about hup-hup training. I'll look for it and if I find it I'll post it here in a bit.
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Mathilda - FDCh

Silly Tilly
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 4, '09 5:02pm PST
http://www.squidoo.com/flyballboxturn#module8283041

this is not the page I was thinking of but the basic info is there.
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Jet (FMCh,- TFFC, CGC)

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Barked: Thu Nov 5, '09 2:51pm PST
I've taught both my dogs on the Wall initially, but this is how i teach a turn during our club's classes.

When we teach our Flyball class, we first teach enthusiasm for a target stick, the dogs are literally jumping in the air to touch it. Then, we have a long jump or use a 'gutter' to teach a 'over -and-back' for the target stick. The handler stands on one side of the gutter, askes the dog to 'touch' and holds the target on the other side of the gutter. this is to teach the dog an over and back , teaching the 'whip' off the box and muscle memory. Once the dog has this, we introduce a push board, basically a 'box' that does not trigger and has the rubber of a flyball box. We place the gutter in front of that and teach use the target stick to do the'over and back' only now the dog is touching the pushboard. Using the touch stick, we encourage the dog to get all four on the box. Only when the dog is consistantly getting high up on the pushboard with all four paws and it whipping off the board do we fade out the target stick, and add a real box. Once the dog is now doing its turn off the reall box, the one that triggers, without a ball, then we add the ball in. Most of the time the dog has a learning period then, when the ball is introduced and the dog has to remember to incorporate the turn with the ball too. We do believe that that the turn is way more important for the dog and will place more importance on having a good turn before teaching the retrieval from the box.

If the dogs turn deteriorates once the ball is introduced, we remove the ball again and work again on the turn. It sounds complicated, but our class dogs (even the big ones that really have to work on fitting their longer bodies on the box) are developing some great consistant 4 footed swimmers turns that are also consistant at tournaments.

Another thing i might add is that our our boxes have white tape on the bottom, as a interpretation of there being a 'jump' there, for at tournaments. We also find it helpful to never work a dog on the box at a practice without a prop in front.

Its GREAT to se more Flyball threads! Hope this was helpful and not so confusing to picture.
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Dennis FDCH

I love agility- and flyball!
 
 
Barked: Fri Nov 6, '09 5:34pm PST
Great thoughts, Jet! We do a lot of the same things. dancing
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Kai

I'm the water- baby!
 
 
Barked: Wed Nov 11, '09 12:07pm PST
So we practiced this weekend with a cone in the corner of our house and it really helped. Last night at class I was the best student! Mommy was so proud of me. Thanks for all of your tips. They really helped in class.
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