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Henry

Are you gonna- eat that?
 
 
Barked: Mon Jan 7, '08 6:57pm PST 
Remember that every exchange with your Shiba is a conversation, not an owner giving a command that the dog will obey. The Shiba must agree with you that the request you are making is reasonable and necessary. Do not take this personally.

Be prepared to have multiple conversations with strangers every time you take your dog out in public. Start working on your speech now... "He's a shiba inu. It's a Japanese breed. Genetically related to the Akita."

Be prepared to be outsmarted on a daily basis (reference my all-time favorite thread, "Come, Tikka - Part 2").
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Safari

Betcha I can- distroy that. - 10 seconds!
 
 
Barked: Mon Jan 7, '08 7:46pm PST 
Come. Yeah, that's a funny one. A Shiba. Coming? I don't think so.

Touch their feet. Lots. When they are sleeping, when you are playing, etc. This will help alot when you have to clip nails. (also known as ripping their nails out)

More about the come thing. If you call your Shiba, and they come to you, don't give them a treat until they let you touch their collar. Get them used to the fact that you have to be able to touch the collar, and then they get a treat. Practice this with REALLY good treats.
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Ayumi

Where did all of- this hair come- from?
 
 
Barked: Mon Jan 7, '08 9:02pm PST 
Yumi is our first Shiba, and we've had her for two years since she was 8 weeks old. I agree with exposing your Shiba to as many sights and sounds as possible and with early and consistent socialization.

Start with basic training as early as possible and train continuously. Practice training EVERY DAY. Make your Shiba earn every meal, every treat, everything. I'm a big advocate of NILIF (Nothing in life is free) that Loki often tells us about. Thanks, Loki! smile

Find time to play with your little one every day, even if it's just a 5-10 minute game of tug-o-war, fetch, or a game of chase. This has been just amazing for both myself and Yumi. It's the best stress reliever I've found and helps build a deep bond between human and Shiba.

Whatever you do, take all with a grain of salt. Shibas can be feisty and difficult at times, but the love, laughter, and entertaining anecdotes that they provide are worth the pain! I promise! laugh out loud
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Tikka

This is me- ignoring you!
 
 
Barked: Mon Jan 7, '08 9:13pm PST 
Shibas are not "dog-like" in terms of bonding, affection, or playing. Don't let your expectations sour your relationship with your shiba.

Luckily, Tikka was the first dog I ever owned and I got her at 10 weeks old. I did have expectations, but they were based on general knowledge. It was also fortunate that I was a cat owner, so I could relate (somewhat) to a lot of Tikka's behaviors.

For several months, she didn't come to me for affection. She liked to be alone most of the time. I thought it was VERY unusual for a puppy! I began to think of her as an autistic savant (e.g. Rainman). She was brilliant in some ways, she was potty trained in a matter of days. She learned to sit, lay down, roll over, shake before she was four months old (not that she CHOOSES to do them, but she learned them quickly). Yet, in other ways, she was definitely in her own little world.

You'll have to find your own way and your own relationship. Don't make your Shiba try to be like "other dogs." They are unique and the most awesome dog you will ever know! Work with their nature, not against it and you will have a very fulfilling relationship. puppy
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Tetsuya

I'm a snuggly- boy!
 
 
Barked: Mon Jan 7, '08 9:42pm PST 
If you have one in your area - join a shiba meetup on meetup.com
It is a great way to learn more about shibas and it is a lot of fun! big grin
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Izzi

582857
 
 
Barked: Mon Jan 7, '08 11:55pm PST 
This post is fantastic. I love this forum especially for all of the reassuring stories I read about other Shibas.

Whenever Iz would pull up a huge patch of carpet, destroy any of my favorite shoes, or pee all over the living room area rug, I would think to myself 'what have i gotten myself into?' or 'why is my shiba the only one who does this?'. Now I know that's not only NOT true, but it really helps to hear about what everybody else is going through. Cause let's face it, it can get frustrating.

Anyhow, all of what's been said so far is true, but not all of it is true for every shiba. Some shy away from people and/or other dogs; some don't. Some are hypersensitive to noises and fast movements around them; some aren't bothered by that at all.

To my great fortune, Iz turned out to be a huge social butterfly, I've never really had any problems with getting her to eat kibble, she's [mostly] potty trained, and she's always been very well behaved when i've cut her nails (thank god on that one).

The bad news is, she's very destructive. Chews on everything. The fact that she's super assertive with other people and dogs doesn't always work in her favor either. A few people have said she's too nippy, and we've had a some dogs misinterpret her form of playing as fighting.

Just be consistent with your Shiba, use the same commands, and don't EVER show anger in your voice or your actions. They do not respond well to it - at all. Educate your friends and other people who will be around him/her about how to act as well.

PLAY with your Shiba. If I don't play with her enough, she's gone so far as to eat her own poo, and the resulting mess from her throwing it all up is never fun to clean up.

If you don't have a yard for your Shiba to run around in (i.e. you live in an apartment), you better be ready to adjust your social life. You cannot crate this dog all day and expect things to go well. You MUST be home to play with them, take them out to potty, and supervise their alone time. They do need alone time, but I've found with mine that she cannot be trusted to be left alone at home. We'll try to get there over the next couple of years, but no way do I trust her now.

I am in love with my Shiba, and now that I've learned better how to live with her, I am rewarded every day by the things she does 'right'. I still do things wrong all the time - yes me, not her - but I continue to work on those things, and I learn something new everyday. It takes a while to learn your Shiba. Put the right amount of time, energy, and love into him/her though, and you will have a friend for life.

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Mitsu

Is this- annoying? How- about this...?
 
 
Barked: Tue Jan 8, '08 3:47am PST 
Mitsu is 4 months old in a few days, so my experiences are very limited. We've had her since she was 9 weeks old. Here's what I've learned so far...

I found toilet training was very easy. I think the breeder had done a great job in teaching the pups to go outside. We only had a few accidents in the first few weeks, and now we've been accident-free for about a month!

I recommend using a crate. Mitsu only cried the first night we brought her home and crated her . Since then we have been able to put her in the crate overnight from 10:30pm to 6:30pm with no accidents or crying. She will never foul her crate as she likes it to be clean - when we come down in the morning, and let her out she'll run to the door and pee or poo outside! In fact, nowadays, she sometimes demands her breakfast first before going outside, (indicated by sitting by the food bowls) -so that's almost 9 hours of holding her pee.

The crate is also great for chill-out time. We never use it as punishment, but if Mitsu gets too feisty we will calmly pick her up and put her in the crate. After a couple of minutes, when she has calmed down, we will let her out again.

As Mistu is so calm and feels so safe in her crate, it makes car-travel a breeze. She's normally asleep within a few minutes of setting off. We have done 5 hour car journeys with her in the crate, stopping only once for a pee and some water to drink.

A couple of weeks ago, Mitsu stopped biting so much, as I think she started to mature a bit, but then the teething started in earnest and she started mouthing again! I generally try to replace objects I don't want her to bite with her toys so she knows what to bite on. If no toys are to hand and 'no bite' doesn't work, I will try holding her mouth gently shut and saying it. If that fails, some crate time is in order!

I'm not sure if this is typical of all shibas, but Mitsu never tires on her walks. I have taken her for walks of 2 to 3 miles and when we get home she'll do the shiba-500 round the garden for 5 minutes afterwards! We tend to do one big walk, or two smaller walks a day. We haven't missed a day of walkies since she has been fully immunized. She is a lot calmer if we have done more exercise.

Mitsu is lazy in the morning, and once she's done her business outside at around 7am, she will go back to sleep on the sofa, or by the radiator, until about 11am, when she'll perk up a bit and pad around the house calmly. By midday she's ready for her first walk. We have friends with German Spitzs and they say their dogs exhibit the same pattern. After the lunchtime walk, she'll sleep again for a few hours in the afternoon.

I agree with Iz, that you need to play with your shiba a lot. I tend to spend about an hour in the evening playing fetch with a rubber ball (in the house), or tug of war, or getting her to do tricks. Mitsu learned 'sit', 'stay', 'down' and 'come' quite quickly, but will only do them if she sees something in it for her (i.e. food!).

I also agree that firm, fair and calm discipline works the best. If we let anger or frustration creep in to our voices, it sends Mitsu even more crazy than before we tried to discipline her! Cesar's calm assertiveness really does work.

Mitsu has met loads of adults, children and dogs, and loves them all. She is very excited for the first few minutes, but soon calms down and although she can sometimes be a bit mouthy, she is very affectionate with strangers. We're going to puppy school starting this week, so that will be yet more socialization.

Edited by author Tue Jan 8, '08 3:52am PST

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Aya

Miss C.O.A
 
 
Barked: Tue Jan 8, '08 4:59am PST 
Aya was a pet store pup who was on sale...in other words, she'd been there awhile. Great for the socialization, terrible for the housebreaking.

My resulting advice would be this: Always always always start with the positive behavioral interventions and training methods. However, this is a primitive breed and sometimes, if the positive stuff isn't working, it is truly best to startle them into recognizing what is unacceptable. They are as narcissistic as they come; mine, my way, now, me, I want, I can...24/7. I'm not suggesting all out abuse...don't get me wrong. But you gotta get their attention off of themselves sometimes.

(Edit: I just read the posts above me... I see I've said something conflicting with what Iz said. So let me add that you gotta use your own observational skills and learn what works for your own pup. We went through a lot of unnecessary angst with Aya because I wasn't willing to stray from the positive behavioral methods. It wasn't until we started to let her know we were angry with a particular behavior [e.g., going outside then coming back in to pee] that things started to turn around. Aya has not turned into some passive, fearful, overly good dog who is afraid to do anything normal, but had we gone too far with the gruffness, she might have.)

Also, give 'em love and cuddles and affection early on whether they seem to reject it or not (w/o coddling them). They will eventually come to seek it out from you and enjoy it.

Edited by author Tue Jan 8, '08 5:12am PST

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Mitsu

Is this- annoying? How- about this...?
 
 
Barked: Tue Jan 8, '08 5:51am PST 
Aya. You make a good point about discipline. I found the the softly-softly reward-only approach didn't work either.

By calm assertiveness, I mean letting the dog know the boundaries in a no-nonsense way, but without getting too wound up about it.

Btw, this is a great thread - I'm enjoying reading everyone's responses.
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Mitsu

Is this- annoying? How- about this...?
 
 
Barked: Tue Jan 8, '08 6:35am PST 
Just realised a mistake in my long post and it won't let me edit it any more...

I meant I crate Mitsu from 10:30pm to 6:30am (not pm! Now that would be cruel!)
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