Mutts and Moms vs. Ellen Degeneres

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Nikki

If it's on the- ground, I'll eat- it.

Barked: Tue Oct 16, '07 9:15pm PST


	I'm on the board of Critters in Need Pet Rescue, and of course we have it in our contract that the dog must be returned to us if it doesn't work out. We even have a question about it in our application. We need to know where the dog is at all times and that the dog is well cared for. HOWEVER, Mutts and Moms seems to be handling this all very badly. All that they had to do is point out to Ellen that she did not do the correct thing, and then go to the new home to do a home inspection. Then they should have had the new family fill out an application to adopt the dog. Based on the acceptance of their application - and based solely on this and the home inspection - the family should then be allowed to keep the dog. There was no reason to pull the dog from the family unless they felt that it was not a proper environment. It makes me wonder why they threatened to call the media and why they called the police over this. Was it for the publicity or was Ellen not cooperating? Some of the details appear to be missing. Oh, and Twiggy, your dogs are safe. You will never return them or give your dogs up, so you have total control over what happens to them after your death. It's only if you decide that you don't want them anymore ... then the dogs would have to be returned. A good rescue group will be open to new potential homes for a dog. We don't want to have to take back dogs because then it doesn't free us up and allow us to pull other dogs from shelters to save their lives. Edited by author Tue Oct 16, '07 9:21pm PST

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Dante

Big Dog, Tiny- Body

Barked: Tue Oct 16, '07 9:22pm PST


	Before passing jugdement on the rescue, we need to wait for ALL the information to be released. Perhaps the home was not suitable by the rescue's standards, perhaps the dog had developed medical problems, there are so many things that could be the reason for this. As for the rescue, most small non-profits can barley handle all the regular correspondence they recieve. This sounds like they have been overwhelmed and are simply trying to get the situation under control. As for their threats to go to the media; well what did Ellen do? How can that be a positive experence for these kids?

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Nikki

If it's on the- ground, I'll eat- it.

Barked: Tue Oct 16, '07 9:26pm PST


	Wow, I just read that this family will NOT be allowed to keep the dog because the children are under 14! Personally, I think this is a silly rule. http://tinyurl.com/2x5wjn Here's an excerpt: Owner Marina Batkis "is not going to give them the dog," said attorney Keith A. Fink, who's not representing the shelter but is speaking on Batkis and co-owner Vanessa Chekroun's behalf. The women run the nonprofit Mutts and Moms out of their store Paws Boutique. "[Batkis] doesn't think this is the type of family that should have the dog," Fink told the Associated Press. "She is adamant that she is not going to be bullied around by the Ellen DeGenereses of the world…They are using their power, position and wealth to try to get what it is they want." The attorney explained that Mutts and Moms has a policy of not allowing families with children younger than 14 to adopt small dogs. The stylist's kids are 11 and 12. Edited by author Tue Oct 16, '07 9:26pm PST

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Kitai

Chia Kitai!

Barked: Tue Oct 16, '07 9:54pm PST


	I could be wrong but don't some shelters even have age restrictions like this? While I understand and respect that every rescue has policies they adhere to I think it's a shame that in this instance the rescue will probably suffer greatly in both their rescue organization and retail shop. There are so few people dedicated enough to create and run a rescue. It would be terrible for LA to lose one. I guess the question becomes will other rescues review their policies? Or since they've worked up to this point will they? should they? remain as they are making no exceptions? I'm not judging the rescue in question at all here. A policy is a policy, rules are rules. Sometimes it doesn't hurt to bend them other times bending a rule can become a slippery slope where everyone expects an exception will be made for them. Edited by author Tue Oct 16, '07 10:02pm PST

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Raven

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Barked: Tue Oct 16, '07 9:56pm PST


	This was just posted on TMZ.com : Don't Screw the Pooch! Posted Oct 16th 2007 10:48PM by TMZ Staff Filed under: TV, Celebrity Feuds Ellen DeGeneres has been attacked by a pet adoption agency for committing a cardinal sin -- not getting approval before giving an abandoned dog to a loving family. TMZ obtained this clip from tonight's taping of Ellen's show that will air tomorrow. In it, she says the fight should not be about anything but the dog, and the dog just needs to go back to the family. TMZ broke the story that Ellen had given a dog she adopted to her hairstylist after she realized the pooch didn't get along with her cats. The adoption agency ripped the dog from its new digs because Ellen signed a contract that said if she gave the dog up it would go back to the adoption agency -- HELLO?!? Adoption, loving home! Now we've learned Ellen never submitted an application to adopt the dog, nor did she undergo a home inspection that seems so important after the fact. There were no holier-than-thou terms to this process. For the record, we're told the agency has greenlighted other dog adoptions with young children in the house -- the "kids" in question here are 12 and 13. Also, we've learned the deal was that the info on microchip in the dog's neck was supposed to be updated with Ellen's information. That was never done. that's why when the police checked the chip, the dog was still registered to Mutts and Moms.

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Zeke

I can definatly- fit in your lap!

Barked: Tue Oct 16, '07 11:46pm PST


	I think it IS a big deal. I was that age when I lost my first dog....she was me only friend at that time, every one of my childhood firends had moved. But she became too agressive to people who came near me, and my parents put her in a no-kill shelter that would try to reabilitate her. I have rarely hurt so much in my life. I STILL miss her. So, basically, Ellen messed up. She's human. She's remorseful, which is better than some people. She's admitted she's wrong. Yea, she should have read it, should have researched, etc etc etc. Too late to go back now, and now I'm sure she's NEVER doing that again. I AM irritated that she wasn't more careful, but I'm not going to go crazy unforgiveable on her. That part is over. Ellen is really out of the picture now. I'm more worried about the PRESENT situation with the family who lost the dog, the dog itself, and how the shelter is handling it.

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Molly

PLAY RUN JUMP- PLAY RUN- JUMP.......

Barked: Wed Oct 17, '07 3:42am PST


	This is sad for everybody. I of course don't know Ellen, but I do watch her show and really enjoy it - she seems to truely care about animals and I feel she would never intentionally hurt one. It's too bad the rescue can't look at this on an individual basis rather then just say "it's the rules" - it's too much like my work place, there are no individuals, just rules and numbers. Sounds like this is a done deal - the dog is gone, it won't be going back - it's over and everyone is sad. I hope the dog finds a good home and the other family can find a dog they can keep

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Merlin

Until there's- none.....

Barked: Wed Oct 17, '07 4:57am PST


	We have a no young children rule. There are some very valid reasons for them. If a dog is small, it could be hurt by a young child. I've actually recieved threats from a family with a 2 year old after I turned them down for a 5 lb dog. Small dogs + young kids is not a good combination. In addition, people with young children are among the main culprits responsible for throw away dogs. People adopt the dog for the kids, then put no time into training it and dump it when it becomes unruly. Sadly, not just families with kids do this, Ellen obviously does also. She adopted the dog on Sept. 20th. She had the dog nuetered. She said her hairdressers family had the dog two weeks. That means Ellen didn't even have the dog for 2 weekd herself, and the neuter was done in that timeframe. Talk about lack of commitment. Less then two weeks is not enough tme for the dogs true personality to show through. It is not even close to enough time to work through any cat issues the dog may have had. Then, to go on national TV and sic her public on this rescue? How cowardly of her. I wonder if she would be so complacent if her own contract was violated? People like Ellen, who have no understanding of what being a dog owner is about, are a major part of the reason so many dogs are euthed every day. Who knows how many homes this poor guy would have been suffled through before he ended up in some shelter death room? The rescue dropped the ball on letting Ellen adopt a dog in the first place, but thy stepped up and did the right thing by taking the dog back.

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Nacho

I am master of- all I see

Barked: Wed Oct 17, '07 5:18am PST


	Merlin, I agree with everything you've said here. Ellen used her show to villainize the rescue, so nothing they did would have won. Ellen chose to use her show as a forum to make the rescue out as bad guys, when she's the one who broke the rules and caused the whole situation in the first place. And this (from TMZ): "Ellen DeGeneres has been attacked by a pet adoption agency for committing a cardinal sin -- not getting approval before giving an abandoned dog to a loving family" makes me so angry, because the dog was abandoned by Ellen herself!! How does that make her a good judge of where the dog should go next. I get that she feels bad, but it's not the rescue's fault.

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Buddy

Just looking for- a midnight snack

Barked: Wed Oct 17, '07 5:50am PST


	I would like to know the reasons why Mutts & Moms do not think this is the right home for the dog. Is it just because the children are under 14 years old. That is a rule of theirs. No children under 14 can have a small dog. That is a little absurd. The rescue group I belong to wants children to be over 10. Did they spend time talking to the family and seeing how the kids interact with the dog. Why can't they work with this family and make frequent home checks? I have to admit that I am very upset with Ellen for using her show as a forum to bully this rescue group. I have lost all respect for her. I am sorry but I belive she knew the rules. Breeders and rescue groups make that rule very clear ,that you cannot rehome the dog. Because she is "Ellen" she did not care about the rules. It is terrible for all. They are both wrong.

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