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New proposal about VA could lead to overturn of ADA

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Harley, SD,- CGC, TDI

Super Service- Boy!		 
 
Barked: Sun Jul 1, '12 5:04pm PST 
Tuvok,

The ADA over rides the state law when it comes to fully trained SDs, meaning they can not require an ID or that the dog be from an approved trainer. It's not an enforceable law on the SD end. You are just not eligible for any extra protections the state offers if you don't meet their requirements.
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Tuvok

Toovy Doovy Doo- Ready and- Willing!		 
 
Barked: Mon Jul 2, '12 10:14am PST 
Yes, I understand I don't need to be state compliant, but i make sure I am covered by state law so that I can utilize the police if I need to.

I also help others that OT in Michigan so I want the SDIT I help train to be covered by state law.

My other point is that Michigan state law requires an ID and it doesn't stop fakers or people with program dogs from behaving badly. ID's don't work.
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Holly

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Barked: Fri Aug 24, '12 12:21am PST 
Have you found anything more on the non profit status of ADI?
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Happy

The Boy Wonder		 
 
Barked: Fri Aug 24, '12 12:37am PST 
Assistance Dogs International is a 501(c)(3) not for profit organization. I don't have the relevant numbers on this mainly because I haven't looked but they are non profit. It is also a requirement of programs that are Part of ADI to be non-profit status.

I could likely dig up the information but honestly at the moment I don't have the energy for it. If you're curious though their contact information is on their website and you could contact them for the needed numbers to confirm their non profit status.
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Cooper

microscopic mutt		 
 
Barked: Fri Aug 24, '12 8:06am PST 
Actually the ADI/tax situation is quite complicated. First off, an EIN (employer id number) is an organization's equivalent of a social security number. An organization is supposed to have just one, but apparently at some point ADI acquired two.

The EIN that has a corporate address in Santa Rosa, CA (where ADI's secretary is) lost its non-profit status with the IRS this year for failing to file a required form - but that's no big deal and there's a grace period in which organizations can fix that.

The EIN that has a corporate address in Smithtown, NY (where ADI's treasurer is) has filed all required forms and is current on its tax-exempt status.

So yeah, they screwed up and need to get their paperwork straight, but on the other hand it IS just paperwork and they didn't suddenly become some greedy for-profit corporation.
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Happy

The Boy Wonder		 
 
Barked: Fri Aug 24, '12 11:35am PST 
Thanks Cooper.

I knew at some point the paperwork had been correct. And for all the mess I'm really not anti ADI and would like to see more programs hold themselves to similar high standards required of ADI programs *shrugs*.

I would say it's weird about the two numbers but if they have more than one office (multiple personnel working in both states) they would likely have to file in both states. Granted my research into what it takes to get non profit status is only in the beginning stages and been slowed due to medical issues going on.
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Cooper

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Barked: Fri Aug 24, '12 11:49am PST 
I've incorporated and gotten tax-exempt status for a couple of organizations. It's not hard. (I'm not an attorney or anything, these were just small groups that I was a volunteer for.) It's been a while so I don't remember every detail of the process but if there's anything I can help you with feel free to PM me.
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