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What is Alert?

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Dora CGC

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Barked: Sat May 12, '12 5:16pm PST 
Here is the definition
a·lert [ ə lúrt ] 1.watchful: watchful and ready to deal with whatever happens
2.mentally lively: clear-headed and responsive
3.warning of danger: an alarm or warning of danger

With that said what defines a dog alerting. I hear some say it means they tell you something will happen before it does. Others say that your dog is just bringing to your attention what is happening.
Examples. You are sleeping and there is a fire in the house and your dog barks to wake you up is that an alert.
You are feeling faint(you know you are)but your dog notices it and lets you know.
My point is is it seems by definaition Alerting can be before or during somehing is happing to bring attention.
However in the SD world it seems like the term alert means the dog must sense something and then let the handler know well before it happens. I am not looking for a heated discussion just some clarification on the term alert and can it mean diffrent things.
Say you and your dog are going off a curb and the dog notices a car before you and tells you about it-is that a form of alert? I am not sure I am making since. It is so hard to put my thoughts down in print.
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Harley, SD,- CGC, TDI

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Barked: Sat May 12, '12 5:59pm PST 
A medical alert dog is a service dog that alerts to an oncoming medical event prior to it occurring. For example, Harley is a seizure and syncope alert dog. For both, he alerts, or warns me, that one is about to occur. With a syncope alert, that allows me to sit and not faint. With the seizure alert, it allows me to get safe prior to the seizure.
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Dora CGC

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Barked: Sat May 12, '12 6:27pm PST 
Harley, that is kind of what I learned from others. Dora does the same thing.(I am still being evaulated for Dysautonomia) There also a couple things she does not pre alert me but rather responds.
Is there somewhere to find the descritption of a medical alert service dog. Specifically what it does. I mean is it in the ADA or is it just something that handlers have come up with.For sxample a hearing dog is a dog that helps people with hearing loss.
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Mario

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Barked: Sat May 12, '12 7:16pm PST 
"I hear some say it means they tell you something will happen before it does. Others say that your dog is just bringing to your attention what is happening."

That is the difference between an alert or response. An alert lets the handler know their medical condition is about to, or will soon in the future, become an issue. I think because it is common to pair alerting and responding behaviors that is where the confusion comes from. There is a grey area that is often attacked, in between alerting and responding I am just going to refer to as "limbo." People with psych disabilities may relate to me more on this. For example, I dissociate, a lot (I have been working on this post for an undogly amount of time). My dogs are trained to alert ME that I am dissociating, because I am obviously unaware, in limbo. However they are also responding to something that is already happening.... however *I* am not aware that it is happening. They also alert me on average 5-10 minutes before I have a panic attack, episode of illness, and are also trained to alert me to many things that trigger me. Link once stood staring at me for at least 10 minutes the second a certain friend came over (who I had not had any issues with before), and would NOT leave me alone, kept trying to lead me to the bedroom, etc. Certain friend ended up doing/saying a lot of things that severely trigger my disability which caused me to poof for a while, and after Link REALLY meant business, he was able to lead me to my bedroom where I had one of the worst, several hour long episode I have ever experienced. Now that you are all looking at me like an ax murderer puppy

For those with "nontrained" alerters, how do your dogs alert you? With a behavior? My dogs alert in several different ways. Staring (don't mess with a border collie stare), pawing my leg, snapping their teeth (Mario, smart but very quirky), jumping onto my lap or lying/leaning on my legs/feet, placing paws on my shoulders and REALLY staring at me, licking my hand or face.... I think that's it. (I am transitioning between SDs atm, very varied behavior.) Most of these behaviors are also used to *respond* to symptoms as well, but I also have a much longer list of responding behaviors. Grey area? I too would like to know if there is a reference in the ADA as to what "alerting behavior" is.

In my opinion, if a SD is alerting their HANDLER to something happening to them that *they* are not aware of themselves, in most cases, that is an alert. There are areas that overlap, but what should matter is that the person is getting the assistance they need, not nit pick over what an alert is. An alert is individual to each SD team.
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Tuvok

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Barked: Sat May 12, '12 9:09pm PST 
Good question. Many who like to be picky about what service dog tasks are named do say that an alert is only an alert if the dog lets you know beforehand probably meaning before there are any symptoms.

There seems to be a gray area though.

Just tonight I stopped by a store to get a mothers day card (shame on me for waiting last minute) and two young women were talking to me longer than I was comfortable with. I started to become anxious but was so caught up in the moment I wasn't self aware. This sort of thing can spiral out of control pretty quickly. Thankfully Tuvok went straight from his trained alert- a nose punch to the knee which I was only halfway aware of- to putting his paws on me and nudging my hand so I can pet him and relax myself which is usually what I have him do after he alerts. It worked and I became aware and was able to work on calming exercises. The anxiety was controlled and I was able to continue my shopping instead of becoming a horrified crazy lady having a meltdown. To me this is still within the dictionary definition of an alert. Of course it is also response work. AND a fine example of grounding work.

The two ladies saw this and then said "that dog just alerted you didn't he?" as I went into my well practiced calming routine with Tuvok's help. Here it is, straight from the non service dog owning public's mouth.
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Edited by author Sat May 12, '12 9:15pm PST

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