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Montecristo- (Monte)
That'll do, pig
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 | | Barked: Sat Jun 2, '07 12:09pm PST | |  | |  | | Has anyone heard anything more recent about this?
Claim: St. Bernard dogs are being raised for food in China.
Status: True.
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2001]
PETITION TO STOP THE EXPORT OF ST BERNARD DOGS TO ASIA AS TABLE MEAT
St. Bernard dogs are being exported to Asia (China, Phillipines, etc) as table meat. Some of these dogs are first tortured to increase their adrenaline levels BECAUSE IT IS BELIEVED THAT THIS MAKES THE MEAT TASTE SWEETER, then skinned alive. These animals are being killed because their meat is considered to be an aphrodisiac. This is an absolutely abhorrent practice and WILL STOP NOW! PLEASE, sign this Petition which, will be forwarded to the United Nations asking that they intervene. New Zealand was successful in stopping the experimentation on the Great Apes
We can all, as a world nation, do the same for our pets. Thank you.
PETITION TO STOP THE EXPORT OF ST BERNARD DOGS TO ASIA AS TABLE MEAT
We the undersigned ask that the United Nations intervene on behalf of the people of the world to stop this abhorrent treatment of all dogs and to stop countries exporting/importing dogs for the purpose of either breeding for food or using for food. St Bernard dogs are popular for this practice as the puppies grow to a large size quickly.
Origins: News
reports from and about China are notoriously difficult to verify, and given the size and diversity of China's population, any statement about what "Chinese people do" has to be taken with a grain of salt. Several European newspapers and news agencies have run items in recent weeks about the raising of St. Bernard dogs for food in China, although newspapers often pick up stories from each other without verifying the information (and thus all report the same apocryphal story as true, as recently happened with the Working Stiff legend). Some of these papers carried stories filed by reporters in Beijing itself, which gives them a bit more credibility, but even these reporters seem to have been relaying information they were told rather than scenes they personally witnessed. Nonetheless, we're cautiously assuming the basic facts found in the reports are true, based on the sheer persistence of the reports.
The main thrust of the articles is that some 11,000 signatures have been collected by a group in Switzerland known as the SOS St Bernard Dogs in order to prod the Swiss government into lodging a formal protest with China, and the validity of the protest is supported with various quotes and scenes gathered from around China:
In Datong, where coal was once the biggest business, sacked miners now make money cross-breeding pure St Bernards with local mutts that are reared solely for the stovetop. "The meat is so tender and has a unique aroma," said Meng Li, a local breeder.
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The fame of gently braising St Bernhard in oyster sauce or pot roast with aromatic vegetables has reached Beijing. At the Gourou Wang restaurant in a suburb of the capital - the name means Dog Meat King - St Bernard is in hot demand. "Dog fondue is the most asked after dish," said a spokesman. "It really warms you up."
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On the public broadcasting system recently Professor Du Shaoyue said: "This is meat from an idle dog. They are very tasty and very nutritious."
The film accompanying his voiceover shows little St Bernard pups playing in the grass while a female narrator, then cuts over romantic piano music as the "growth qualities" of the breed are extolled.
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Song Shiyong, head of the Shenyang Dog Meat Research Institute said St Bernard were four times more profitable to breed than pigs or chickens. "This is a new way to prosperity,"
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The Central Garrison Bureau, which is responsible for the wellbeing and security of President Jiang Zemin and other leaders, is a regular customer at a dog farm that specialises in the breeding of St Bernards for meat production. A spokesman for the Beijing Academy of Agricultural Science said: "The Central Garrison Bureau buys up to 30 St Bernards for the dining pleasure of the leaders."
The Swiss dogs, which have been imported for mass breeding, weigh up to 200lb each and their meat costs about £4 per pound, according to the academy. A 1lb St Bernard meat dish feeds about five people and is usually prepared with soy sauce or oyster sauce. The tail, the liver and the paws are often served separately.
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A brochure published by the Shenyang Agriculture and Science Development Institute, in the far northeastern province of Liaoning, praised the St Bernards' "high farrowing rate", its "fine and tasty" meat and noted that its "gentle disposition is good for group breeding". Returns from meat dog farming were four times higher than from pig farming, the brochure added.
One reporter found that Chinese claims about the savory aspects of dog meat didn't quite meet his expectations:
The Beijing academy spokesman said: "The taste of St Bernard meat is somewhere between ordinary beef and tenderloin — much better than other dog meat, which is often hard to chew."
This description does not quite match what I found during a meal this week at Beijing's Dog Meat King restaurant. Groups of businessmen feasted in private rooms with karaoke video machines at the head of the table.
Waitresses placed two menus in front of me, a regular one and a dog meat menu. The dog meat was not labelled as coming from Switzerland but the waitresses assured me that the Dog Meat King uses only the best type of meat, which I assumed to mean St Bernards.
The dishes on offer cost between £3 and £9 and included stewed dog meat with soy sauce, dog ribs, stewed paws and tail with ginseng. I opted for dog meat boiled in soup.
In retrospect, I would say that it tasted a bit like Irish beef stew but at the time it seemed more like a wet, crumbling digestive biscuit.
Two of the points often mentioned — that the dogs "are sometimes subjected to a painful death because breeders believe that the resulting adrenalin rush improves the flavour" (or because this supposedly enhances the aphrodisiacal qualities of the meat) and that St Bernards are being imported into China in large numbers — are more difficult to verify. The St. Bernard is supposedly the preferred dog in China because it yields a better-tasting and more economical source of meat than other breeds, and it doesn't make much economic sense to go to all the expense of importing thousands of dogs from other countries when breeders could simply raise them much more cheaply themselves.
Still, though the idea of someone's eating St. Bernards (or any other type of dog) may be abhorrent to us, it's also rather hypocritical of us to demand that it stop. Even if the Chinese are eating dogs, why is that any different than our eating lamb, for example? Would America react with anything but scorn if Hindus around the world presented the U.S. with a petition demanding that we stop the "abhorrent practice" of eating cows and exporting beef? Nonetheless, hypocrisy seems to be the typical stance of much of the world:
Animal welfare organizations, like the International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW), are outraged that Saint Bernards are being bred for their meat and have petitioned the Chinese government to introduce its first animal cruelty laws.
"If a Chinese cannot understand why Swiss people get so upset that they are eating St Bernards, I would ask that same question: If Swiss people eat China's panda, how would Chinese feel?" Grace Ge Gabriel, IFAW China director, told Reuters Television.
We suspect that if pandas were as plentiful (and edible) as dogs, the Chinese would already be eating them. But of course, their standards don't count, only ours do.
Certainly most of us prefer that any animals used for food be raised and killed humanely, but we don't have to look to China to find exceptions to this standard — there are plenty of cows, chickens, pigs, and other food animals being raised and slaughtered in appalling fashion right here in our own backyard. But of course, since we keep dogs as pets, we arrogantly assume we have the moral right to tell the rest of the world what they can do with their dogs. Why worry about the suffering of millions of our own livestock and poultry animals if we can beat up on somebody else for daring to eat dogs? As usual, the issue isn't really about the right of all animals to be treated humanely; it's only about the right of a small subset of cute and endearing animals to be treated humanely.
Last updated: 27 March 2001
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Montecristo- (Monte)
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| | Barked: Sat Jun 16, '07 8:50am PST | | | | | | Hey Duchess!
That's the thing I'm not sure of. I searched for an extra long time online to find anything more current than 2001, but it seems as though reports of this have just dropped off the face of the earth, but I don't know that I believe it's because the problem's been resolved.
I just can't find anything current or any updates on this at all.
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Nixon
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 | | Barked: Sun Nov 8, '09 8:08am PST | | | | | | I'm sure I'm asking for trouble saying this but....this is really no different than raising cows and pigs for food. Why is a dog (or cat for that matter) any different than a cow or a pig or a baby lamb or calf? Rabbits, goats, numerous types of birds, deer, moose...they all end up on peoples tables and in peoples bellies. We slaughter those animals for meat all the time, and it's rarely done humanely and they do not live a healthy comfortable life before they're killed. The conditions that most of these animals are kept in before they become our dinner is, for the most part, very inhumane...and it's happening in our own countries under our own noses. The butchering of cattle and horses is often started before the animal is actually dead...calves who're destined to become 'milk fed veal' are kept in teeny pens which allow no movement and they're kept anemic which cause constant diarrhea, chickens are crammed together into small cages as well...and most farms don't let these animals out, ever. They spend their whole sorry lives indoors in their pens.
In other countries a dog is no different than a cow. It's an animal that's meant to be eaten...and, altho I love my dogs and my cats to bits, I totally understand this. I would never eat a dog or a cat, or a rabbit for that matter...but I do eat cows and pigs and chickens. Because we have certain animals as pets it changes our view of them but some cultures don't view animals as pets at all. They're a food source only.
Having said that, it always boggles my mind why people get so bent out of shape over how other countries treat dogs and cats when our own cows, pigs and chickens are horribly treated right here at home. Not many of us think about that when we're chowing down on a juicy steak.
I just wanted to put that out there as food for thought. I'm not looking for, nor will I engage in, a huge discussion or argument about it. I just think if we look at all animals as deserving equal treatment then we need to start our discussions and investigations and fight for change at home before we go abroad. | | | | |
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Sarge
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| | Barked: Wed Nov 11, '09 11:08am PST | | | | | | Nixon, I'm also going to look bad but I have to tell you (the collective you reading) never believe much of anything you read from Snopes.
Aside from that, it's a terrible story if true. Snopes is not a reliable source at all. They've been found with way too many weak sources and holes in stories.
side note for Moderators: Please oh please swap positions of the New Thread and Reply To Topic buttons. Most forums have them the other way and I keep accidentally starting new threads when replying. | | | | |
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Nixon
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| | Barked: Wed Nov 11, '09 5:44pm PST | | | | | | I only ever believe half of what I read anyway (and I mistrust the other half)...especially when it's found on the internet. Any yahoo can make up anything he wants and someone is going to believe it and pass it on. There are so many urban myths going around (deodorant causing breast cancer) and people are so scared of so many things they have no reason to be afraid of (tap water, vaccines, etc) and it's mainly because of the internet. We're the most misinformed we've ever been! | | | | |
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