|Barked: Sat Jun 8, '13 6:37pm PST |
|Go to dogaware.com. Extremely valuable information on that site for feeding and health care. Any kind of feeding, kibble to enhanced kibble to cooked to raw and beyond.
Cooked is a lot more work, smells great and is wasteful if you buy meat with bone in it. If you don't know what you are doing you are likely to serve a very unbalanced diet. My 38 pound dog needs as much of a large number of nutrients as an adult human so a diet that seems sensible to us would be very inadequate for a dog fed 1/3 as many calories a day but needing the same calcium, phosphorus, zinc, and some vitamins as I do. Raw is more work to source, icky to feed for some and you don't waste anything but the wrappers the meat came in. Some worry about germs and goo and bones sticking in the gut or choking the dog.
If I did cooked I likely would try Lew Olsen's low glycemic type food but would make up batches instead of feeding a bit of this a bit of that.
My recipe would be something like 3 pounds of very lean hamburger, 1 pound of pureed veggies, 3 ounces of beef liver, a couple eggs and a can of sardines with 2700mg of calcium from bone meal. That would be 4-6 days of food for my 38 pound easy keeper. I would puree raw veggies, put all into a very large pot and cook lightly until meats are no longer pink, add sardines and egg and pack up. Weigh the whole thing and divide so I know how many ounces he would get a day from that batch.
I would try the slow or pressure cooked chicken method at least once though. The bones reportedly soften so you can mush most of them up and not have to throw away bone.
My recipe would be 1 5 pound chicken cooked until bone falls from the meat, remove meat and cook bones in broth until soft. Add 10 pounds of very lean hamburger, 1 pound of liver, 4 cans of sardines and some egg and cook very lightly. Use the broth and don't throw away skin or fat unless the dogs cannot tolerate fat. No calcium or phosphorus needed as it comes from the bone. You might need to add some veggies to firm the stool, might start with 25% which would be 4 pounds and reduce the amount as the dogs adjust to the food. That might feed Max for 22-27 days.
Dogs with heart issues need less salt and more meat. You control the salt in home made food. Do check the labels. Chicken especially is 'enhanced' with a sodium solution. If the chicken contains more than 100mg sodium per serving put it back on the shelf. I think you will note that there is plenty of meat in my idea of cooked food. Max looks like a spaniel mix and they can have heart issues caused by low taurine. In that case you would be better off supplementing if you cook the food. If you feed whole pieces of raw then there would be plenty of taurine present. Ground meats can be low in taurine. A study of cats fed ground whole rabbit had to be terminated as that diet didn't provide enough taurine and cats got sick. A whole rabbit would have been fine though.
Raw. My raw diet is 20 pounds of meat/bone/organ per month. A couple chickens cut into 8ths, a pound of liver, pound of kidney and the rest pork, beef, lamb. All goes into the clean sink on a cutting board. Get out some bowls, disjoint the chicken and put into a bowl, cut liver and kidney into 2 ounce bits and into a bowl. Get out my freezer bins, a bit of chicken and a bit of organ then fill with boneless red meat. Freeze. A bin lasts two days and I weigh out his portion daily. Add an egg if it is light on the second day.
He gets a bit of vitamin E, fish oil and joint supplements daily and I give him a mineral supplement as he doesn't get much food so his diet is light on manganese and magnesium and zinc. I would likely do the same on a cooked food. I found out after he had been on raw for a while that grains bother him so I wouldn't be using them as a manganese source. Magnesium is found in some seeds so I might add ground sunflower seed to a cooked diet. Max would rather have sunflower seeds, ground or not, but they bother him so he gets a human mineral supplement ground up and mixed with his raw food.
I know I am doing right by Max as I have the NRC 2006 numbers found in Monica Segal's books. There is a thread on the home cooking forum about balancing the diet too.
I hope you decide to try feeding fresh to your dogs. I was amazed at the improvement in my dogs' health and hope to be able to feed fresh from here on out. While you are studying up on the subject do look at dogaware's section on adding fresh to kibble. You can substitute 25% kibble calories for fresh food calories without worrying about unbalancing the diet and up to 50% if you have half way tried to create a balanced food.
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