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Do we really need all these vitamins/minerals

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Barked: Wed Jan 11, '12 4:52am PST 
I have a pet daily vitamin/mineral supplement powder just wondering if this is even neccesary, it says 15grams daily i only put in half to one tsp of it though. The ingredients are A, D3, E, K3, B1, B2, B6, B12 Pantothenic acid, Folic acid, Nicotinic acid, Biotin, C, Calcium carbonate, Potassium carbonate, Yeast, Seaweed meal, vanilla flavour. I have heard that mega b tablets are important so all the b vitamins. I also give 1 fish oil capsule daily with ingredients of : fish oil natural 1000mg containing omega 3 marine,Triglycerides 300mg EPA DHA whatever that means . I mean what do our dogs really need i was thinking of just going back to a mega b tablet daily from health food store and a fish oil tablet, i like to use fish oil as i heard it can help the joints she has no joint problems but we compete in agility so thought it would be beneficial. Any thoughts suggestions?
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Trigger

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Barked: Wed Jan 11, '12 6:39am PST 
We don't do supplements here, the dogs get what they need from what they eat.

I wouldn't feel good about feeding any diet that necessitated me giving my dogs pills/powder/oil supplements just to be complete.

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Oscar

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Barked: Wed Jan 11, '12 7:03am PST 
No supplements here either, just a diet of what nature intended a canine to eat. Supplements are for the most part, (I am being generous here), made of extremely low quality, food by-products that have no where even close the bio-availability of real food.
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Saya

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Barked: Wed Jan 11, '12 7:46am PST 
Only thing I give is cranimal very berry, vibe, and vitamin E twice a week. I think if Saya didn't have her spinal injury she'd wouldn't need supplement..

She doesn't get fish oil since she gets raw smelt, saury, mackerel, caned sardines and salmon. plus little bit of grass fed lamb and beef.
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Barked: Wed Jan 11, '12 7:58am PST 
No they definately do not need them. A diet of raw meat, bones, and organs from a variety of animals includes all the nutrients needed with the possible exception of O3's which can be provided with a little fish body oil or salmon oil. If you are feeding a fair amount of grassfed domestic animals or wild animals, all the O3's are present without the oils.

I recently read a study on humans that suggests that vitamin pills have absolutely no nutritional benefit and MIGHT cause some harm.

Befor you give any supplements to yourself or your animals, you should research to see what the diet is deficient in. Giving supplements where there is no deficiency simply creates expensive pee. For example if your dog's diet contains all it needs of a specific supplement, adding more contributes nothing to health.
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Adam

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Barked: Wed Jan 11, '12 7:58am PST 
Some supplements like vitamin C can be dangerous since the dog's body produces it's own too much can raise uric acid. Almost all fat soluable vitamins can be dangerous to give too much of.
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Beauregard

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Barked: Wed Jan 11, '12 8:09am PST 
@Adam, I've heard that dogs under stress need extra vitamin C, is that true?
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Adam

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Barked: Wed Jan 11, '12 8:14am PST 
Possibly, depends how long and how healthy the dog was to begin with. Some dogs with illnesses like cancer have really benefited from large doses of C.
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Barked: Wed Jan 11, '12 8:18am PST 
I'm not Adam but that has never stopped me from offering an opinion before. smile Dogs prduce their own vitamin C internally in their liver. They have no need for vitamin C in their diet. Humans, don't have this ability and must consume it in their diet.

Excess vitamin C is excreted from the body almost immediately via the kidneys so anytime you give your dog vitamin C, it only stays in his body a very very short time.
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Saya

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Barked: Wed Jan 11, '12 8:21am PST 
I agree giving a multivitamin when it's getting all it needs from food so not good.

I've stopped taking my vitamins myself I feel I eat enough variety to cover it. Fresh fruits, veggies, cooked veggies, juices, water, meat, eggs, fresh fish and caned fish through out the week for myself. I eat a healthy type of cereal for breakfast or snack..
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