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This is a dedicated place for all of your questions and answers about Raw Diets. There are also some really cool groups like "Raw Fed" on the topic you can join. This forum is for people who already know they like the raw diet or sincerely want to learn more. Please remember that you are receiving advice from peers and not professionals. If you have specific health-related questions about your dog's diet, please contact your vet!
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Charlie
 Crazy Girl | 
| Barked: Thu Jul 2, '09 6:21am PST | |  |  |  |  | So last night was our first night feeding raw & I was absolutely ecstatic about it. So much so, in fact, that I made the mistake of calling my parents to tell them what the dogs had for dinner. (On a side note, I am nearly 25 years old, married with my own job, house, dogs, etc. I am not a child and do not need their "permission" to feed my dogs raw meat, even if they disagree).
Anyways, my dad COMPLETELY freaked out. At first he was concerned - like you need to get them to the vet asap that's not healthy! And he gave me this long lecture about how chicken bones are soft and therefore can splinter and hurt the dogs. Um, WHAT? But when I explained that I did this on PURPOSE because this is an extremely healthy diet for the dogs, he completely berated me.
He said according to his vet you should never give dogs bones (also, according to his vet IAMS is the highest quality food you can feed and you should start your dog off on the right foot by alpha rolling him at the tender age of 8 weeks - so you can tell what I think of this vet....)
Anyways, I told him I had done extensive research and would be happy to send some information along to him but he said any idiot can put things on the internet and only other idiots believe it....
I KNOW I'm doing the right thing for my dogs, but how do you convince other people that you're not killing them by feeding raw? Has anyone else run up against these problems? I could really use some commiseration....
Thanks,
Ashley (and Charlie & Helo) |  |  |  |  |
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Dakota
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| Barked: Thu Jul 2, '09 6:30am PST | |  |  |  |  | The best advice I can give you is to tell people the benefits of raw feeding and why you feel it is the best diet for YOUR dog and leave it at that. People will be close minded or they will be open to the education, but either way it is YOUR dog and you are doign the right thing. I seem to always go the "controversial route" and am used to people thinking I am nuts. I nurse dmy daughter past a year and even have her in cloth diapers, add raw feeding to that and people thinkI have 2 heads. Oh well! |  |  |  |  |
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Kolbe
 Where can I run- today? | 
| Barked: Thu Jul 2, '09 6:32am PST | |  |  |  |  | but he said any idiot can put things on the internet and only other idiots believe it....
IMO? Not worth your time. You're a grown-up now. It doesn't sound like he WANTS to believe you regardless of what literature you present him with.
If you WANT, you can refer him to these PRINTED BOOKS (not "idiots on the internet")...
"Work Wonders: Feed Your Dog Raw Meaty Bones" by Tom Lonsdale
"Raw Meaty Bones Promote Health" by Tom Lonsdale
"Raw Dog Food - Make it Easy for You and Your Dog" by Carina Beth Macdonald
"The BARF Diet" by Ian Billinghurst
You can also direct him to the websites for the commercially prepared ground raw such as Nature's Variety, Bravo!, Primal, Urban Wolf, etc.
You can also direct him to any websites of vets that DO recommend raw (usually holistic).
Beyond that? I wouldn't really bother... |  |  |  |  |
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Gray Dawn- Treader
 Don't Tread on- me
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| Barked: Thu Jul 2, '09 6:36am PST | |  |  |  |  | Heh, I had a friend do the same when she heard what I was feeding. I told her that I did my research first, that holistic vets support it, etc. Didn't work at all. (Thankfully, everyone else has been accepting. Some even interested.)
I say, where education and explaining how much research you did and how carefully you considered it does not work, the ignore factor needs to be brought in when it comes to discussing that subject. I just don't talk about raw around her anymore.
You may try asking him a few questions like "What do you think dogs ate in the wild?". Many come up with the excuse that dogs evolved to eat a cooked diet, but honestly, that's like saying that humans will one day evolve to the point where fast food is nutritionally complete.
And, perhaps you could explain that while much stuff on the internet is bunk and many people fall for it, that finding things that have science to back them up on the internet isn't that hard if you use your head. |  |  |  |  |
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Dennis FDCH
 I love agility- and flyball! | 
| Barked: Thu Jul 2, '09 7:00am PST | |  |  |  |  | I live on the west coast, and my parents live on the east coast. I have not told them I'm feeding raw because I'm pretty sure my father's response would be something like your father's response. I just don't need to hear it, so I don't share. My husband's family on the other hand, comes out to visit us every year, and they have been supportive of the raw.
We are convinced that raw is the way to go because Tucker's breeder is now feeding this way, as is our agility instructor who we think the world of, and is also a full time certified dog trainer, as is our traditionally and holistically trained vet (who graduated from Cornell Univ. and worked animal ER for some years), as does our human/doggie chiropractor who has a pHd in neurology, as do our doggie friends who seriously show in conformation, work their dogs at agility, herding, flyball, and breed. These are serious breeders we know who even import the occasional dog from Europe to keep improving their breed. All these people can't be idiots who are just blindly believing everything they read on the internet. |  |  |  |  |
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Lily
 Whose bed?? Why- would YOU think- that? | 
| Barked: Thu Jul 2, '09 7:31am PST | |  |  |  |  | Relax and let the dog's improved condition in a short while show him. The proof is in the animal!
I got a phone call from my non dog loving daughter. It seems Lily's and Moira's muscle mass and soft shiny coats were the topic of conversation at a party she went to. The funny thing, I don't know her friends - only the one we happened to meet while we out walking - he couldn't keep his hands off my furgirls. I wonder if he has started raw for his two? |  |  |  |  |
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Rocket&Cassi- e
 pointydogs- represent! | 
| Barked: Thu Jul 2, '09 8:16am PST | |  |  |  |  | I've been known to roll eyes and walk away mid-conversation if someone's that vehemently opposed to rawfeeding. It's not worth my time or energy to butt heads with people like that.
They are YOUR dogs, and what you feed is YOUR business. |  |  |  |  |
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