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FDA intends to shut down all raw pet food companies

  
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Shankar

I just love.
 
 
Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 8:56pm PST
I have been feeding raw to my dogs for years now and it is definitely the only way to go.

Unfortunately, I just got words from my raw pet food supplies that FDA intends to shut down the whole raw pet food suppliers. Right now they are starting with Bravo.

I will find out how to send testimony to support the raw food companies. If anyone else know of the links where we can send our support, please post to let us know.

Monnie

Here is the memo I found from Bravo:
Almost a week after Bravo! a raw pet food diet producer, announces a product recall, Melinda Miller, one of the principals of Bravo and a co-founder of the North American Raw Petfood Association (NARPA) writes a memo and sends the following email:

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A Message From Bravo:

*ALL* raw meat carries pathogens. Whether you buy from the grocery store, from wholesale meat suppliers, or from prepared raw diet manufacturers.

It is impossible to avoid. The USDA allows poultry producers to have up to 23% Salmonella contamination on poultry. A good portion of chickens are actually *born* with Salmonella. So the poultry products that manufacturers must use are contaminated long before it ever gets to us. Since these are *RAW* diets and we don’t cook them, the bacteria is left intact. This is true for *every* raw diet manufacturer and for every person who feeds raw regardless of their source. Raw meat has bacteria - that’s why people are told to wash
their hands after handling raw meat. ANYONE who has fed raw has fed pathogens such as Salmonella and Listeria.

Do Salmonella and Listeria pose a threat to our dogs and cats? Not really. If you go to our website you’ll find a recall FAQ that gives citations about how Salmonella is a normal part of the intestinal flora and how dogs apparently neutralize the bacteria. There’s even a quote from the FDA Consumer magazine that acknowledges that healthy dogs and cats rarely become ill from Salmonella.

So why is the FDA involved and why did we do the recall? You can find more information on that on our website also. But briefly you should know some of this:

The FDA agents told us that we are just the first of the raw diet companies to be visited, and that they hope to be able to shut down the raw diet industry and stop raw feeding. So this is an industry problem, not a Bravo problem.

The FDA has a very black eye due to the melamine recalls. So, they want an easy win so they can prove they are safeguarding America’s pets. Raw diets are an easy target for them.

The FDA is holding raw diets to a *cooked* diet standard and has no desire to be reasonable and acknowledge that you can’t hold *RAW* meat to the same regulation that governs *cooked* meat.

The FDA and USDA are currently in a bitter battle. The FDA is trying to take control of USDA operations. We believe one of the reasons Bravo was chosen was that we are a USDA facility. By bashing Bravo
they are able to bash the USDA.

This recall is the result of politics and unreasonable bureaucrats. Bravo raw products carry the same risk - and BENEFITS - as any raw product - whether home-prepared or manufactured.

We have been a company dedicated to high quality. That’s why we use antibiotic-free poultry, and grass-fed, hormone-free red meats. It’s why we manufacture in our own USDA plant under USDA human processing
standards. Other than the reality that all raw meat has some pathogen presence, nothing has changed. You can still count on us to make a high quality and beneficial products.

To those who have been sending notes of support, thank you very much. We’re caught in the midst of a political struggle and it helps to know there are people who understand and appreciate the passion
and care we put into Bravo products.
FMI: www.bravorawdiet.com

Melinda

Melinda Miller
Bravo Raw Diet
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Darby - C.G.C.

The Anti-Lassie
 
 
Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 9:02pm PST
Grrrrrrrrr! This makes me so mad. And Bravo! products are some of the best raw products around.

I suppose they'll just have to get around the BS by putting cooking instructions on the packages, and a disclaimer saying that "...this is not REALLY meant to be served raw." (Nudge-Nudge. Wink-Wink.)
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Gunner

I solemnly swear- that I am up to- no good
 
 
Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 9:15pm PST
How Annoying.

FDA wants to completely stop all raw feeding? So are they going to come into all grocery stores and ask everyone "Excuse me Miss, but are you intending to feed that to your dog RAW?"

People need to brush up on their literature.
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ORSON the- DOGGE

I'm now on a- Hallmark Card!
 
 
Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 9:16pm PST
shock
uhmmm, prepackaged raw has never killed a dog/cat but well....kibble has!
where is the logic in that?? cry
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The Black- and Tan Clan

have a nice day
 
 
Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 9:19pm PST
This is sad... i think they should leave us alone and let us feed what we want!! I feed NV and im assuming they will be attacked too... can we write letters to the FDA?? anyone who knows if we can please let us know!!

i guess mom might have to start feeding prey model big grin against her moms wishes laugh out loud
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Winnie

Anything you can- do I can do- cuter!
 
 
Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 9:28pm PST
Dang. What bs confused
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Latte

Fetchaholic
 
 
Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 10:09pm PST
You can't convince me that the major pet food companies are not behind this move.
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Aina- Aloysius de- LeMaitre

work hard, play- hard
 
 
Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 10:13pm PST
The FDA is on an illogical rampage regarding lots of things right now. Wait, not they're not necessarily 'illogical' but simply politically based decisions rather than scientifically based. The attitude permeates all of the FDA right now so my people don't see this latest event to get any better. Home cookin' it is then!
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Moxie

Vertically- challenged hound- dog
 
 
Barked: Fri Nov 16, '07 12:16am PST
Anyone seen the Alton Brown "Good Eats" episode where he tries to make carpaccio?

The men in black suits with the CIA type ear phones tackle him and make him read a disclaimer about consuming raw meat... he hated that he had to do that, you could tell... it was all dramatized... but that's how ridiculous our governmental agencies can be... I'm sure they would prefer to stop selling raw meat all together... lest we know the human public can't be trusted to handle it properly *sigh*
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Jack

wonder-mutt and- sidekick- mega-mutt
 
 
Barked: Fri Nov 16, '07 1:21am PST
i love that episode! good eats rocks way to go

i agree the FDA is just trying to look good after the melamine fiasco. if they really want good press why not look closer at what were importing from china.
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