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How much Water do you give your Puppy?

Got a new, young, furry love in your life? This is the place for you to ask all of your questions-big or small! Just remember that you are receiving advice from other dog owners and lovers... not professionals. If you have a major problem, always seek the advice of a vet or behaviorist! Most important is to remember to have fun with your new fur baby.

  
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Fynnigan

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Barked: Mon Apr 7, '08 4:48pm PST 
I'm glad you ask instead of simply criticizing Ann, I'd be glad to explain how I came to do this with my dogs.

My first dog was a rescue from the shelter I volunteered at. He was a 9 month old cocker spaniel. He was not only not house trained at the time, he was also a submissive peer. I was 15 at the time and my parents were smart enough to get us both into a dog training class. It was a puppy kindergarten class. The trainers thoughts were that when a dog eats or when a dog drinks there is literally a "let down" type process that happens to their gut - puppies and dogs alike experience this sensation. It relaxes them and causes them to want to eliminate. By feeding and watering at certain times throughout the day it helps the dogs have more control over their movements and helps the owners train them more effectively.


My father who had had many dogs was skeptical about withholding food or water (he always free fed and left water out 24/7 although his dogs always lived outside) and asked the dogs vet about it. The vet agreed that's exactly what happens during eating, drinking, waking up from sleep and after a pup is done playing. And that it's a reasonable technique as long as the pup is getting plenty of opportunities to drink and isn't becoming dehydrated.

When my husband and I got our first dog together, a weim pup, we consulted our vet who told us either way we decided, water out 24/7 or watering at scheduled times every day and after exercise only should be fine. He also said there are downsides to leaving water out 24/7 like dogs drinking way more than they need to out of boredom and therefor needing to pee more than they ordinarily would. We've had the same vet since then and have continued to train each pup we've gotten since then the same way. Never had a problem yet.

To clarify I don't restrict how much my pups drink, only WHEN the pup's drinks. I offer a full bowl for Fynnly to drink from 4 times a day along with his kibble as well as during the entire duration of any play times outside.

Our older 3 already house trained dogs don't drink water even if it's left out 24/7 now. They drink with meals and after exercise as we started them doing when they were little too.

Two of our guys are extremely active upland game and water fowl hunters. We train year round and they work harder than most dogs I know. I think if anyone was going to run into issues using this technique we would have already.


I think anyone that wants to try it for their pup should consult their vet first but beyond that it's fine. Just because some here disagree with it doesn't mean it's not a perfectly acceptable method to assist in house training.
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Fun On The- Run Kennel- Racing

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Barked: Mon Apr 7, '08 10:35pm PST 
I have all outside dogs so I do not have to deal with the housetraining problem. I give my dogs a can of water attached to the side of their house nd i fill it up at least once a day and I soak their food in water so they get water that way too. they also like to eat snow during the winter so I might not have to give them as much.
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Champ

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Barked: Tue Apr 8, '08 4:26am PST 
To answer your question..... when Champ is crated, he doesn't get water in his crate. ONLY because he won't drink it, instead he will spill it and never touch it at all. Fortunately we have the option of my b/f coming home every hour and a half (sometimes every hour - he works within a block of home) and he is able to come home on breaks to let Champ out to pee and give him water. He also has toy that is meant for giving water. It's a big plastic bone and it gets filled with water, every time he bites it - he gets water.

However, within 5 minutes of Champ going in his crate, he sleeps (we're spied) and he doesn't touch anything in his crate - no toys - no bone with water in it - no treats - nothing, he ignores them all in his crate and he sleeps.

I'm sorry you were so offended by all of our posts......... if there's a reason, which there is, that you are limiting water and your vet and trainer helped you come up with a schedule, that's fine whatever works for you.

I just know from my own personal experience with my puppy - that limiting water is not a good thing. I don't see a whole lot of benefit for the dog. It would be beneficial to me, as the mess that comes from Champ drinking - slobbering and dripping throughout the whole house... ugh. This coming from someone who had a puppy that was outside with us playing for 20 minutes and peed 5 times! This was how he was until he was 4 months old..... it seemed I'd come inside from taking him out and again he'd have to pee.

This is an open forum and I don't agree with limiting water..... but you might not agree with how I handle my dog. I think that's the whole point of the forums.... debate things, disagree if you chose, but maybe throughout the course of it all people will learn new things and become educated.

Not a big deal or something to loose sleep over.
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Rosalita Lola "Rosie"

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Barked: Tue Apr 8, '08 6:06am PST 
I truly have never heard of a dog drinking out of boredom. Rosie, Pepe and the kitties have and always have had free access to water and food. Neither Rosie nor Pepe are crated. They drink when they are thirsty, as I do.

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Kolbe

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Barked: Tue Apr 8, '08 7:05am PST 
Their water bowls are located in the basement and I usually close that door around 11PM. I don't really limit water intake other than that... after 11PM we go to bed and they don't really get up during the night anyway. I do notice that they don't drink even 1/2 the amount of water they used to drink before they were on a 3/4 raw diet (raw's extremely high in moisture content so they don't get as thirsty as on dry kibbles). So the main thing is I just have to always remember to dump the water and fill it fresh daily because otherwise it takes the two of them several days to empty one bowl of water (unless it's real hot out or we've taken them biking).
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Elvis

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Barked: Tue Apr 8, '08 7:16am PST 
I leave water out for Evis all day I never say I am tired of him doing anything. puppies pee alot and that will lessen up as they grow. Dogs need water and try not to get angry because he is just a baby and a sweet looking one at that
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Fynnigan

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Barked: Tue Apr 8, '08 8:11am PST 
I don't get "angry" at my dogs Elvis. Ever. I'm not sure where you'd get that impression from.


For those of you that are interested here are some sites that talk about pups and dogs drinking out of boredom. For those that leave water out 24/7 perhaps asking your vets about a dog drinking out of boredom the next time you see them will help you to understand how this problem can and does happen:

http://www.dogobediencetraining.foxdoo.com/2008/02/26/dog -potty-training-get-started-at-an-early-age-for-best-results/

htt p://www.blog.bullandhund.com/ (see Tips for House Training Your Dog)

And sites that suggest limiting how often water is available to your pup while working on house training for those of you that had never heard of this technique - several suggest exactly what Gavin has been doing with the ice cubes:

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=1089

http://www.torontohumanesociety.com/adopt/petcare/housetraining.asp (see feeding time)

http://www.homevet.com/petcare/puppy3.html

http://www.pe rfectpaws.com/pup3.html

Edited to fix a couple of the links. For some reason I can't manage to get the space out of the last one myself so if you check it out you'll need to remove that space yourself for it to work.

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Olive

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Barked: Tue Apr 8, '08 8:47am PST 
So...an update...

I left Olives bowl out all day Saturday, Sunday & Monday . Needless to say she was picking up the water bowl and spilling it ALL over. Now, I've been sticking with it because I don't want to be "cruel" like everyone has said, but It's just been a disaster. Basically - it's just not working for us...at least not right now with her little puppy brain. I will try to leave the bowl out for a few more days, but honestly - Even with access to the water - her behavior hasn't changed - She still loves playing in water, lapping at the puddles, trying to drink out of the toliet, and she still pads in the kitchen and wines for ice cubes (and treats). The only thing that is different is she is now peeing in the house (without signs)! If I ask her for water, she looks at me, but if I ask her for Ice cubes she freaks out. I think she's teething, and she likes the cold. I also think she's just being a puppy - and I don't think that by me restricting when she gets her water I'm being cruel - because I know she's getting plenty of water during the day, through her meals/play sessions, So, I guess everyone is different...I mean I will eventually leave the bowl out for her, but right now, she's just a spazz with it. She swims in it - more than she drinks in it.
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Greta Girl

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Barked: Tue Apr 8, '08 9:10am PST 
Our (me and Gus's) Vet told our Mom that water with our food is just fine. With young untrained kids like us we will just go crazy and drink until we puke. Mom makes sure that when we are REALLY thirsty that we get plenty of water to drink. Mom is home with us all day so whenever we get thirsty we whine to Mom and she gets us a drink immediately. We also get free for all water at our mealtimes so to wash all the kibble down. Mom worries that if she gives us a lot of unnecessary water that when she does put us in our crate to go to the store (and buy us treats and stuff) that we will have to pee so bad and that would be unfair to me and Gussie since we never, ever want to pee in our crate. I think you are doing exactly right with Olive and I think she is one lucky dog to have such a concerned Mom like you watching out for her! Love, Greta
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Trigger

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Barked: Tue Apr 8, '08 9:14am PST 
Fynnly's water loving brother here

"She swims in it - more than she drinks in it."

That's a lab for ya! We keep a latch on our toilet because of potty water play, own several kiddie pools of varying depths just for him and make several trips a week to the lake during non-winter months wink

Believe me I sympathize. Most labs don't grow out of it either! Trigger is 3 and is still just as crazy about water as the day we brought him home at 4 months.

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