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Gray Dawn- Treader
Don't Tread on- me
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 | | Barked: Mon Nov 12, '07 8:18am PST | |  | |  | | Hey again, George! I still disagree about the number of litters per year, but I decided to give the site a look. Not only was I impressed, I was VERY impressed. I'll have to add them to my list of breeders I admire! I like the picture of the JRT watching TV, we have a picture of Snoopy (see my family) doing that in his Photo Book! I guess Jack Russels do that kind of thing. (Here is my mistress-she wanted to comment about JRTs: Personally I like Jack Russell Terriers. Not nearly as much as Collies and Shelties, but energy-wise they are my kind of dog! My dad doesn't like them though; he'd rather have a dog with very low energy.)
Unfortunately, my mistress' Uncle Joey bought my "brother" Snoopy came from a BYB. His friends just happened to have two purebred, intact JRTs (a male and a female). It wasn't planned, but they bred with each other and the girl dog had puppies. I guess Uncle Joey was looking for a dog, because they gave him one of the pups, who was named Snoopy. At least it was free so he didn't support them with money, but still. If my mistress ever gets another dog, it will be from a shelter, a rescue, or a reputable breeder. Our top choice would be a reputable breeder! (Not to say that BYB and puppy mill dogs don't deserve a home! ALL dogs deserve homes.) I mentioned in my first entry here that I think a breeder should support shelters and rescue. What does everybody else think about that?Edited by author Mon Nov 12, '07 8:19am PST
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bijou
simply the best |
 | | Barked: Mon Nov 12, '07 11:43am PST | | | | | | interesting - I have never heard of a Connemara Jack Russell Terrier - infact when you do a search on the net theirs is the only kennel that comes up with this 'breed'.
I suspect this is the name that they have given their particular 'line' of fairly ordinary looking Jack Russells.
Also apart from DNA profiling there appears to be no health testing done - no testing for caratacts/heart problems or indeed Patella Luxation a condition which commonly affects JRT's.
having said all this they do appear have a very good after sales service but I question their overall experience ( am I right in thinking that they only acquired their first JRT's 7 years ago and so presumably have only been breeding for the last 5 years ? ). this is way too early to tell what kind of 'nasties ' may be lurking in their lines .
there are also no details of what dogs they use - do they restrict their breeding only to their own dogs or do they use dogs owned by other people ? and if so what criteria do they use - it's very simplistic to say that the proof of the breeding is in the offspring but you do need some kind of criteria to judge this by - simply producing 'nice' pups is not ( in my opinion ) enough - that is why there are conformation and working titles ( derided by them by the way ) as a benchmark to assess the success of their breeding practices.
I'm afraid I remain unconvinced and susupect that they are trying to add value to the production of fairly standard looking Jack Russells by pretending they are something more than they really are .....a classic case of 'gilding the lily ! | | | | |
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Pugsley
I Might Be Small- But I Have It- All!
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| | Barked: Mon Nov 12, '07 1:00pm PST | | | [notify] |
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Lisa
Always my angel. |
| | Barked: Mon Nov 12, '07 3:13pm PST | | | | | | "I mentioned in my first entry here that I think a breeder should support shelters and rescue. What does everybody else think about that?"
I wouldn't write off a breeder for not supporting rescue, but it's certainly a point in their favor for me. I just think it shows they're that much more concerned about the welfare of their breed. | | | | |
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George- Sullivan- Bailey, SDIT
Proud to be a- Connemara- terrier! |
| | Barked: Mon Nov 12, '07 5:14pm PST | | | | | | Bijou- Connemara is the name of the kennel, not the name of the breed. The breed is Jack Russell terrier. To each their own, I say... I could spend my life telling you guys how wonderful this woman and her pups are, but I guess there are still going to be naysayers. How does anyone begin breeding with 20 years of experience is what I'm wondering... everyone must start somewhere. My breeder had extensive experience in raising and training police dogs and training/behavior certification, etc. before she ever decided to breed JRTs... she was mentored every step of the way by her breeder, who also breeds this particular line of old-world terriers. Far from "gilding the lily," these little dogs represent the best of what a Jack Russell can be... tenacious without being too stubborn, affectionate without being too needy, sensible with children and other pets, etc. I am not just talking about my own dog... through interaction with many of our dogs and meeting my breeder's dogs, I can say with perfect confidence that these are traits all of the dogs share. My breeder has searched far and wide for dogs of the same background (no Fox/Fell terrier infusion, originating from Ireland in late 1800s, temperament/healthy/sound, etc.) but different "relatives" to breed with. There are a handful of breeders who preserve these lines... I'm not talking about breeders who present "rare black and tan" Jacks or "blue-eyed Jacks" or any number of genetic anomalies that people use as an excuse to charge tons of money for. My breeder breeds for the betterment of the breed... she does extensive health testings and has genetically fingerprinted each of her dogs. I agree that only time will tell if something "nasty" will emerge in the lines, but anyone who knows her and her breeding standards would never ever doubt the thorough nature of her testing and the extent of care she practices with each and every litter... each and every dog.
As for rescue, she makes a donation to rescue for each and every puppy born at Connemara and encourages her families to donate to rescue organizations by matching any amount they decide to give... and discounting her puppies up to $100 for anyone donating to rescue. I do think that an excellent breeder should be involved somehow with rescue, but the extent depends on the particular breeder. It's enough for me if they ensure that none of their puppies ever become a rescue statistic by selling pups under spay/neuter contracts only and requiring puppy's return to them if anything were to come up where the owner could no longer keep the dog.
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Lisa
Always my angel. |
| | Barked: Mon Nov 12, '07 5:26pm PST | | | | | | I have a question if that's okay. Ideally, how many dogs should a breeder show and breed? Sometimes when I see a breeder who has 8 male champions and 10 females (like one I just came across), I start to wonder if they can really be giving them the individual time and attention that they need...though it seems fairly common for breeders to have a lot of dogs, especially if they're a smaller breed, so I could be mistaken. I guess if they raise and show the dogs full time, having lots of dogs could be okay? | | | | |
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Pugsley
I Might Be Small- But I Have It- All!
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| | Barked: Mon Nov 12, '07 5:36pm PST | | | | | | BOL Kiona, I just caught that was what she meant!! I thought she meant that, there were not other dogs with there kennel name attached to it (as in there registered name). | | | | |
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Daisy DLCC
We are foster- failures now.
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| | Barked: Mon Nov 12, '07 6:28pm PST | | | | | | Skip... "I am not sure that in order to be a responsible breeder a person needs to be or should be active in RESCUE . That to me is entirely a seperate issue of ethics,morals,responsibility, and choice in my way of thinking especially when considering how often breeders are lumped into one catagory and considered or painted as the problem and are in many cases made out to be the axis of evil for the dog problems we face. "
I have to disagree with some of this.
No you are right that a reputable breeder don't have to help shelters in any way unless they want to and not be judged badly if they don't. That I agree with.
I don't agree with your statement that we lump reputable breeders in with the other not so reputable ones. We state over and over again that we are NOT talking about them. I will say, for every litter born from ANY breeder is adding to the problem. Every pup that finds a home with a dog from a reputable breeder / BYB/ PM/ Hobby breeder is possibly taking a home from a rescue / shelter dog. Honestly For me I have more respect from reputable breeders who either sponsor or adopt a shelter dog every time they produce a litter. So yes, any breeder producing pups without considering what is already in shelters in their own area is a part of the problem. That is not saying they are the only cause because they are not. People just look at one breeder breeding when in reality there are hundreds everyday breeding... the good bad and the ugly ones. When you stop and look at the forest instead of the trees, you will see the big picture ( that someone else loved to say on here ). If it was only ONE reputable breeder / only one BYB / hobby breeder, it wouldn't have an impact. ( can't include PM's because they breed left right and center and twice on Sunday ).
Sp please everyone who thinks we are tar and feathering reputable breeders the same as the other, WE ARE NOT. We do say if a shelter / rescue dog isn't for you, then go to a REPUTABLE BREEDER. All you have to do is read any thread and if you don't just read what you want to see then you will see that. | | | | |
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