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If I have it- wrong someone- will tell me |
 | | Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 10:19pm PST | |  | |  | | just one illustration of a reputable responsible breeder having or needing no waiting list.
A person decides to breed to carry on the excellent traights of a dog that has excelled in what it's breed was bred for and has proven itself itself in those traights to include a excellent verifiable health history,excellent temperment and structure.
The owner matches the dog up with another excellent breed dog with comparable attributes to include verifiable health and performance stats. The window of opportunity is short and the breeder does the breeding. the breeder will need to take some time in deciding which and how many of the pups he or she will keep and does not concern themselfs with gathering a waiting list as the pups will be taken care of and socialized properly regardless of the time the pups or dogs are offered to responsible owners. |  |  | |  |
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Daisy DLCC
We are foster- failures now.
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| | Barked: Fri Nov 16, '07 2:46am PST | | | | | | Sometimes even reputable breeders have people back out for different reasons, or the breeder backs out beacuse something happened that the adopter turned out to be unsuitable for their pup. Some adopters change their minds and bring a pup back for many reasons. In those cases there will be pups advertized. Ususally they will only have MAYBE one or 2 to advertize. Most breeders will have a waiting list BEFORE breeding. | | | | |
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Pugsley
I Might Be Small- But I Have It- All!
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| | Barked: Fri Nov 16, '07 6:34am PST | | | | | | I still don't think they need a waiting list. | | | | |
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Daisy DLCC
We are foster- failures now.
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| | Barked: Fri Nov 16, '07 6:52am PST | | | | | | Pugs, the reason most reputable breeders have a waiting list is so not to breed on the "hopes" that all the pups will have a home. The breeder also has time to do very extensive background checks ( vets / personal / home etc. ) Alot more time then when the pups are already born. Also it gives them a timeline ( so to speak ) inbetween breeding ( if using the same dog(s)). My sister who is a breeder always has a list waiting for pups. She breeds once every 2 yrs. One yr she will breed shelties , the next she will breed her chi's. If she don't have enough people wanting pups for either ( average amount of puppies usually for each breed ) then she don't breed. It is a good way to slow down breeding when there may not be " buyers".
No breeders don't need a waiting list but from my experience and knowledge I think it is a great idea. | | | | |
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JaVa
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| | Barked: Fri Nov 16, '07 7:20am PST | | | | | | Hey Pugs, I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but there's another reason a reputable breeder will have a waiting list. With reputable breeders (RBs), their breedings are done with a purpose. Usually the merging of two sets of traits from the genetics of two individual dogs. Oftentimes this breeding is discussed among other members of the breeding community, and other breeders will request one of the pups if the breeding will compliment their program. So if you combine pups going to show homes, pups going to other breeders, and then any pet prospect homes, you can end up with a waiting list fairly quickly. Most RBs only breed 1-3 litters a year, so the demand is high.
I've honestly never seen an RB without a waiting list, especially if they make a consistent effort to show, health test and compete in conformation/obedience/agility events. (By definition, a RB would, so this is probably a mute point.) | | | | |
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If I have it- wrong someone- will tell me |
| | Barked: Fri Nov 16, '07 7:26am PST | | | | | | I know a responsible breeder that did not give a hoot about establishing a waiting list or letting that influence his decision to breed because he had all the time in the world to take care of the pups, raise them for his goals, and should he find a interested and fitting buyer offer the opportunity to do so. He had unusually strict critera on who he would allow one of his dogs to go to and few people could or would meet his approval as such.
His contract included that the dog must be feed a raw diet,must be trained in a certain way,must not be trained in other ways, must be titled to certain levels at a specified age,must be housed and managed in a particular fashion, must have certain health screens performed at certain times in it's life,and must be made available for home checks at reasonable points ,,ect ect which for many people would be unreasonable or extremely over the top in expectations. I read the contract and was amazed that anyone would buy a dog under such conditions. Guess what he found these types of people to my surprise and they were more than happy to have the opportunity to own one of his dogs .
Again no waiting list and probably more responsible than most breeders who have waiting lists.
Waiting lists are only what a person makes them out to be when judging a persont o be a responsible breeder. Obviously everyone has a different opinion on this particular point but for me it is something to judge on it's individual merits. Another thing to consider is the judging critera one uses on deciding who can acquire the pups regardless and since we are threading such a small needle I know for a fact that many times so called responsible breeders make some bad decisons.Edited by author Fri Nov 16, '07 7:34am PST
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Pugsley
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| | Barked: Fri Nov 16, '07 12:33pm PST | | | [notify] |
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Daisy DLCC
We are foster- failures now.
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| | Barked: Fri Nov 16, '07 1:27pm PST | | | | | | Most new breeder are with another breeder. The " older" breeder is usually the one who has the " list". Usually the 2 breeders breed their dogs together ( unless related ) then both names are attached to the pups. Then that new breeder starts getting their name out there and a reputation starts. Like you said Pugs, sometimes there are more pups then expected and that is understandable. It happens. Ultra-sounds sometimes miss a pup because it is hidden behind another. As you said, the breeder of Pugs didn't expect him and had to find a home for him ( luckily you ). It is great when a breeder plans for the unexpected. | | | | |
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