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skip
If I have it- wrong someone- will tell me |
 | | Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 8:49am PST | |  | |  | | I want to be as clear as I can and hopefully not offend anyone by my opinion.
When we take in a dog in with knowledge of
coming from a breeder who
presents themselves publicly as a breeder reputable or not we post or make that information available on our web site on our watch list.
When we look at information provided on the breeders web site or lack thereof it is easy to ascertain that they are not a reputable or responsible breeder. As for the example of a responsible breeder going bankrupt or becoming physically ill or worse and not knowing or able to take back a dog I just am not convinced that there are that many responsible reputable breeders out there that would make this occurrence relevant to the debate of being a significant contribution to dogs ending up in a rescue .
I could in contrast however provide page after page of information and example on dogs that end up in bad situations because of ir-responsible rescues and people who do rescue. I know for a fact that exponentially more dogs have suffered at the hands of incapable,uneducated, and misguided rescue people then that of reputable responsible breeders. Many rescue people and rescues go beyond there ability,knowledge, and resources to include taking shortcuts in screening potential owners for the dogs which results in situations I need not go into.
Myself and other responsible and reputable rescue participants are constantly struggling to understand, research, and educate people who give there heart and effort to helping dogs in need that there is a balance and a limit as to when we a rescuers actually become part of the problem especially when providing information to the public to better our cause. It is unfortunate that rescue organizations and rescue participants spend so much energy in pointing the finger at responsible reputable breeders or breeding as having a significant impact on the poor condition that many of nations dogs are in. It simply is not true and we (our rescue and some others out there) strive to better educate the public in ways that do not alienate our partners who breed responsibly,share there knowledge,resources, time, support,and effort
in rescue, and are part of bettering the dog condition.
I am sorry but having been in rescue for 12 years and working with responsible reputable breeders I have a disdain for rescue people who knowingly or simply out of ignorance lump responsible breeders and ir-responsible breeders in the same basket. I am not telling anyone something that they do not know when I tell you that it is the common strategy of rescue people to
describe or paint the picture that all breeders or breeding is the axis of evil and that no good ever becomes of it. So in maintaining brevity I think if the discussion is about who does the MOST harm we might want to step back and take a further look at the facts. There is enough blame to go around .Edited by author Thu Nov 15, '07 8:52am PST
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Daisy DLCC
We are foster- failures now.
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| | Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 9:19am PST | | | | | | "I am sorry but having been in rescue for 12 years and working with responsible reputable breeders I have a disdain for rescue people who knowingly or simply out of ignorance lump responsible breeders and ir-responsible breeders in the same basket. I am not telling anyone something that they do not know when I tell you that it is the common strategy of rescue people to
describe or paint the picture that all breeders or breeding is the axis of evil and that no good ever becomes of it. So in maintaining brevity I think if the discussion is about who does the MOST harm we might want to step back and take a further look at the facts. There is enough blame to go around ."
Again, you are reading more into what WE as rescue / shelter workers are saying. If you truel worked in rescue / shelter you would know what we see / say all the time. | | | | |
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Addy, CGC
Let's go for a- walk! |
| | Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 9:33am PST | | | | | | Daisy, aren't you the one who said, in another thread a while back, that shelters/rescues don't keep waiting lists of people looking for particular types of dogs? Which, in fact, real shelters and rescues do all the time, because the goal is to get the animal matched up with the right home, so that they stay put and don't need to be rehomed again.
If anyone in this discussion does not have as much experience in shelter/rescue work as they imply, I don't Skip is the one. | | | | |
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Daisy DLCC
We are foster- failures now.
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| | Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 12:40pm PST | | | | | | Addy... you really have to get your glasses checked. I have lists longer then my arms for waiting lists for certain types / personalities / small / med / large / long hair/ short hair/ good with cats/ kids / active / couch potatoes and the list goes on. I don't know who you are thinking about but it certainly isn't me.
Now.. I think I have taken enough of you targeting me for your pleasure. If you can't or won't read my posts properly I will NOT dignify you with any comments. Have a nice day. | | | | |
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Gray Dawn- Treader
Don't Tread on- me
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 | | Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 4:50pm PST | | | | | | We may not all agree on everything, but it's not right to gang up on one member. Just read Dogster's Community Guidelines! If you have something to debate with another dog, why not just paw-mail them? I think Daisy is right, but I still don't think that reputable breeder are part of the problem at all. BYBs, puppy mills, show mills, they are problems. See, you can disagree without making it seem like you are puting a dog down. | | | | |
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JaVa
I'm too cool for- a motto |
| | Barked: Thu Nov 15, '07 5:01pm PST | | | | | | On the other side of the coin, if someone is spewing obvious misinformation, it is not only our right, but our duty to make sure the correct information is posted.
I don't believe anyone is victimizing any posters. | | | | |
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Pugsley
I Might Be Small- But I Have It- All!
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