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Penny
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| Barked: Sun Sep 20, '09 8:56am PST | |  |  |  |  | My dog Penny is an 11 yr old Miniature Pinscher. She has papers. I saw her mother and litter mate when I picked her out. She looks like a Min Pin, black and tan, except for the fact that she is bigger than the teeny tiny dogs most people are used to seeing. She's taller and just bigger. Besides that, she's all Min Pin in appearance, personality, and prancing gait.
I ran into a man who said his friend bred Min Pins and every once in a while they would get a litter that was bigger than the typical Min Pin.
Penny was obese for a while but has lost most of that weight. That is part of the reason why she appears bigger, but she is taller and her frame is bigger than most Min Pins I see.
When asked what kind of dog she is, I have had people tell me that there is no way she could be a Min Pin, that she must be mixed with something else.
Is it possible that she is a full Min Pin, just bigger than the standard? |  |  |  |  |
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Connah Mara
 Wait... what do- you mean I'm a- dog? | 
| Barked: Sun Sep 20, '09 4:56pm PST | |  |  |  |  | Now the people who are telling you this what are their creditials to be offering such an opinion? Are they breeders? Breed Judges? Dog Historians? Scientist? Or maybe they are just people who have seen a picture or a dog on the side walk once or twice in their lives?
Chances are they are the latter. You said you spoke with someone that was familure with min pin breeding and he said that was something that does and can happen.
Also, what do you know about the breeder Is your pooch AKC? KC? or other registered? If so what are the criteria for registering your pups pedigree?
I'm not knowledgable enough about the min pin breed to offer you my opinion by looks alone. But I have common sense enough that can help me deduct with reasonable certainty, based on the info that you provided. I think you can too  |  |  |  |  |
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Murphy
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| Barked: Mon Sep 21, '09 10:04am PST | |  |  |  |  | Penny looks Min Pin to me. The thing with this breed though is there's a definite breed standard for "showing" min pins, and then there are all the people with two min pins who have puppies, then take them and sell them in front of the local grocery store, or on craigslist, who aren't breeding for specific features.
When that happens, you can get any variety of traits that stray from the "breed standard", which after a few litters, can start to look vastly different.
Some people often mistake Manchester Terriers and Toy Manchester Terriers for Min Pins too, but they have longer snouts, and more slender builds than Min Pins.
Whether Penny is full 100% Min Pin can be debated back and forth, cause there could be some other random terrier blood in her veins. Or - and this is not a slight on Penny at all, because i'm sure she's a lovely dog - she could just be the product of sloppy breeding.
But like I said, she looks Min Pin to me And what a cutie... |  |  |  |  |
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Fynnigan
 Barracuda in- disguise | 
| Barked: Thu Oct 1, '09 5:37pm PST | |  |  |  |  | She could be Manchester Terrier.
They look pretty much identical to the Miniature Pinscher except the standard MT is larger in size.
Unfortunately AKC papers mean next to nothing in regards to verifying breed, DOB, etc. They can easily be doctured and there is no one to verify such information. |  |  |  |  |
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