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Cooked prey model raw, can you give input? Are my dogs safe?

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Eduardo

Mr. Personality		 
 
Barked: Fri Dec 14, '12 6:08am PST 
The title of this post took me by surprise! Unfortunately, I’m not going to tell you what you are doing is right. If that is what you are looking for, don’t expect a lot of praise. A raw diet is the natural diet for all living species on the planet, including dogs. There is a reason why it is standard to feed racing and sled dogs a raw diet. Dogs thrive on a raw diet. I agree with you about factory farming, which is why all the meat I feed Eduardo comes from small farms or is wild-sourced. Dogs do not need their meat ground, as that is what their teeth are for. You should also never feed a dog cooked bone. They can splinter and cause death. A raw diet makes for a healthier coat, healthier skin, cleaner teeth, higher energy levels, and smaller stool volume. A raw diet is just all-around better for your dog. Organ meat does not need to be given on a daily basis. By cooking the bones you feed your dogs, you are risking their lives. Dogs should never consume cooked bones! Raw bones are safe. Your dogs’ diet is very dangerous and is not providing them with the proper nutrients. Feed raw bones, not cooked. Dogs do not need vegetables or grains in their diet. You are actually feeding them horribly!
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Leopold

Chihuahua +- Shiba Inu =- Chiba Inu???		 
 
Barked: Tue Dec 18, '12 3:44pm PST 
If you do not feel comfortable feeding bones, you can supplement with calcium powder, bone meal or finely ground eggshells. I would never give any cooked bones. Those are very dangerous. Stay away from giving dairy products to dogs, too.
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Maxwell

I'm triple- superior MAD- now!		 
 
Barked: Tue Dec 18, '12 6:02pm PST 
The bones in question are cooked to mush and mixed well with the rest of the food, not cooked bones left for dogs to crunch up. Even humans can eat over cooked bones such as the ones in canned sardines. Merrick makes a canned food that contains a whole chicken wing cooked until the bone is completely softened.

And you don't just pressure cook the bones and serve, you go through and make sure they bones is mushy and take out any pieces that are hard.

Since bone is 30% protein it would lower food costs quite a bit, you would have to throw away the wrappings and some hard bone.

Google "dog food pressure cooking chicken bones", I got half a million hits.
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Lucille

I am the Sock- Bandit!!!		 
 
Barked: Wed Dec 19, '12 8:30am PST 
Having worked in more than one racing kennel, it wasn't common to exclusively feed a high quality raw diet. Some of the meat given was raw, but it was USDA grade D and no organs were ever given, more often than not slopped right along with the cheap kib with several varied mix-ins including supplements. Those dogs never saw an organ or raw bone in their lives. Their dogs were top track earners anyway, so...why feed at higher cost than necessary? cuts into profits and they were a business after all. Still are businesses in the states that still have dog tracks and they all operate on the profit model. (I have no experience with UK track dogs). Feed is one of the first things to be cut down on. Otherwise we wouldn't see on this very site posts about how often folks have to cut back on a raw diet for a large dog when times are tough. Most male greys I handled were around 90lbs, multiply those daily reg's out by a factor of fifty dogs or more. That's reality. I'm not sure what they feed sled dogs as I don't have direct experience, depends on the musher and how flush they are, I'm sure. Meat is quite costly by geographical area for northern teams unless they hunt.

Nothing wrong with pressure cooking bones until they've softened enough, can be quite helpful for older dogs and young puppies, or those with dental issues especially. Nothing wrong with feeding cooked food to a dog either and it would be nice if solid data backed up claims, otherwise it's all just opinion. I keep researching but nowhere have I been able to find data lacking bias or peer reviewed journal studies that state that a well-researched, balanced home-cooked diet is inferior to a well-researched, balanced raw diet. Notice this thread is in 'home prepared food and recipes', not the raw forum, so it's not intended to be for a raw diet anyway. Not all people who homecook use grains or vegetables. I almost always just use meat and organs.
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Kolbe

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Barked: Thu Dec 20, '12 8:25am PST 
Lucille, I've got nothing against cooked diets, as long as they are being properly done. I would re-skim Meridian's post and her point about the altered state of the bone after pressure cooking it, and why that is probably an important consideration in this person's diet plan. Again I think they are over-complicating something because of a personal hangup they have. I think Meridian brought up a lot of really good points. I don't really care what way people choose to feed their dogs, but I don't think we should also encourage unbalanced diets that could potentially be dangerous for the long-term. It would be the equivalent of a raw feeder advocating for a diet of entirely chicken leg quarters -- probably won't kill the dog right now, but looking at long-term deficiencies and unbalance.
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