|Barked: Fri Jun 10, '11 6:48pm PST |
|"Seven days is not an extended length of time. The minimum amount needed to damage the blood was not determined, that study deliberately overdosed to get an effect."
Yes 7 days IS an extended length of time to overdose a dog. If a dog happens to get into a clove and eat it once, THAT would be an "Oh Crap!" moment. But if someone let their dog get ahold of a whole clove of garlic, 7 days in a row, THAT would be negligence.
No one here at dogster is conducting experiments on how much it will take to actually cause anemia, they are talking about normal recomended amounts. AT least I sure HOPE no one is deliberately overdosing their dog on ANYTHING just to see what it will do!
The minimum may not have been determined, but they DID determine that even AT the high deliberate overdose amounts, no anemia happened.
That is the WHOLE POINT OF THIS CONVERSTAION. That garlic is safe, and as this study PROVES, even at a high dose, for a length of time that a dog owner would NOT allow to happen, it does NOT cause anemia. So no worries!
"What other chemicals have the same effect and do you know if you are giving them to the dog? That is my concern. Here is an article aimed at us taking garlic supplements. Dogs do take many of the same drugs. Atopica is cyclosporine for instance, doesn't look like it adds to the blood cell damage though."
It WOULD be irresponsible to give your dog medications without first discussing with the prescribing vet about ALL the supplements the dog is taking. I know BOTH my vets ask that at every visit. It is no different from people taking prescription drugs, they MUST let the DR know what they are taking. I just took Audrey to the vet and I had a list of ingredients of EVERYTHING she took to make sure there were no contradictions and no conflicts.
And the Dr in the article I linked said that in those instances where the dogs were anemic and the garlic was blamed, when it was shown the dogs WERE taking the other things that made it FALSE to say it was the garlic. It wasn't. It was the other drug.
"As for common sense I have to work really hard at it. I do take all the super food nonsense with a grain of salt and just incorporate all such things into the diet without investing in cupboardfuls of the latest fad. Max will not be getting 12 cloves of garlic a day. He is unlikely to get any, poor guy, as I no longer even bake liver cookies flavored with a single clove of garlic or not"
Well I am not sure about "superfood" I only look for specific things to help with specific issues. Garlic has been used for several hundred years, that disqualifies it as the "latest" fad. Maybe earliest or oldest fad. Audrey can't eat cookies, if it's cooked she throws it up, so she only gets her food and some occasional bananas. She does get a SMALL clove of fresh crushed garlic once a day.
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