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Barked: Tue Feb 5, '13 10:58am PST 
That's because peas is a high protein plant matter that is not a grain (as opposed to corn). When people look at the protein content on the bag, they don't separate animal protein from plant protein. It just says Protein and the trend has been for people to buy high protein stuff because they believe it is better for the dog.

Well, yes, high protein is good for dogs. High carbs is bad for dogs. That's pretty much accepted in most dog circles these days. But, also accepted in most dog circles is that the dog has a simple digestive tract that is efficient in digesting animal protein but not as efficient in digesting plant protein. Hence the trend for quality kibbles to always avoid listing plant matter first on the ingredient listing.

But when a person is looking at the bag, all they look at is the protein content and the first ingredient... they don't really think about whether most of that protein comes from that first ingredient...
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Colt

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Barked: Tue Feb 5, '13 7:00pm PST 
I tend to think that peas are a superior ingredient nutritionally than grains and potatoes, but unfortunately dog food manufacturers are taking advantage of their high protein content to make their foods look better. Actually, Colt's current food is Dogswell Nutrisca which is pea based with no grains or potatoes. I have nothing against either grains or potatoes but I really like this food so far (not a cheap one, unfortunately...)

One thing you might consider is, if you find a lower-protein, lower-cost grain free food, you could supplement with eggs and meat and other things to bring up the diet's animal protein content. Both of those things can be gotten pretty cheaply.
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Indy

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Barked: Mon Feb 11, '13 10:13pm PST 
what about hi tek naturals grain free?
ngredients:
Salmon Meal, Sweet Potato, Herring Meal, Ocean Whitefish Meal, Potato, Peas, Fish Oil (Preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Canola Oil (Preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Ground Sage, Ground Basil, Tapioca, Egg, Flaxseed, Sea Salt, Tomato, Blueberry, Raspberry, Choline Chloride, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus Casei Fermentation Product, Dried Bifido Bacterium Fermentation Product, Dried Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product, Vitamin E Supplement, Biotin, Niacin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Source of Vitamin B6), Riboflavin (Source of Vitamin B2), Thiamine Mononitrate (Source of Vitamin B5), Citric Acid, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Manganese Oxide, Selenium Yeast, Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid.

It should be cheaper than TOTW and it's generally sold through feed stores, but they also have a store locator http://www.hitekrations.com/where.html
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Ch.- Rushwind's- She Who- Speaks

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Barked: Mon Feb 18, '13 10:37am PST 
Why is high carb not good for dogs? Because it makes them gain weight or? Because I have an underweight dog and was told grain free was not the way to go for him, since it's like an Atkins diet.
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