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What to feed Bella

Discuss ways to improve the quality of your dog's life and longevity through proper nutrition; a place for all of your questions and answers about feeding your pooch!

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Bella

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Barked: Thu Oct 11, '12 1:08am PST 
Ive been reading over some advice on what to feed a puppy and its just mind boggling - there's so much conflicting advice and i dont feel like any of it is unbiased.

The other issue is that i am on a bit of a budget and many premium foods are crazy expensive (compared to some prices ive read on here) where I live (New Zealand). Eukanuba 20kg medium breed puppy is NZ$172.40 which is US$140.
Any tips and advice on food that's good for them, but maybe not too expensive?

Question 2 - Is this food good for either a puppy or adult dog?
Mighty Mix Family Biscuit Ingredients:
Meat Products & Fats (Beef &/or; Sheep, Pork, Venison), Wholegrain Cereal, Flour, Honey, Apple Cider Vinegar, Garlic, Cold Pressed Flaxseed Flour, Green Lipped Mussels, Kelp, Egg, Vitamins, Minerals, & Antioxidants.
(May contain trace amounts of Chicken.)

NUTRIENT DRY MATTER
Energy 3.5 kcals/gram
Protein (Crude) 25.5%
Fat 9.7%
Fibre 1.9%
Carbohydrates 51.1%
Calcium Min 1.7%
Phosphorus Min 1.2%
Ca : P Ratio Min 1.4:1
Magnesium 0.1%
Zinc 131ppm
Manganese 0.1%
Copper 14.6ppm
Sodium 0.79%
Chloride 0.9%
Potassium 0.67%
Iron 268ppm
Cobalt 1.13ppm
Selenium 0.34ppm
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Jackson Tan

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Barked: Thu Oct 11, '12 2:49am PST 
No, mighty mix doesn't look like a very good food, I probably wouldn't go for that one. Do you have VIP foods in NZ? They have recently bought out a new grain free food here in Australia which looks good for the price.

Another brand is natures gift canned which is also quite good for the price.

Eukanuba has not got good ingredients either and is definitely not worth the money.

Probably the best food available around our part of the world are these billinghurst barf patties, go up to a pet store and see if you can find them, they come frozen and raw.

Eta: There is a brand called ultra also available, it does contain ground corn but the first ingredient is also beef meal which is good!

Ultra pet food NZ

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Bella

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Barked: Thu Oct 11, '12 7:07am PST 
Thanks for that. I didn't realise that Eukanuba wasn't that good of a food, they give you some free when you sign up for puppy preschool so i thought it was good. The vet suggested Iams or pro plan as cheaper but still good foods (she doesn't stock either so i know shes not trying to sell to me lol)

That ultra looks good, although im slightly confused - for the feeding guide for puppies it says "feed 1-1.5cups per 10kg of body weight" does that mean for her at 2.9kg she would need about 1/2 of a cup?? Thats seems a tiny amount confused
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Toby

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Barked: Thu Oct 11, '12 7:42am PST 
I'd look into ZiwiPeak which is made there. Since it is a very high quality food you won't be feeding as much as a low quality food.

ZiwiPeak

we feed it to our cats and they do great on it
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Jace

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Barked: Thu Oct 11, '12 9:18am PST 
Hi Bella

Does anything here work, it looks like they have a brand loyalty program which may save money? http://www.healthypetfoods.co.nz/
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Jackson Tan

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Barked: Thu Oct 11, '12 9:15pm PST 
With a good quality food you do often feed less because it is more nutrient dense, but just start on half a cup, see how she does, and adjust as necessary.

Pro plan isn't considered a good food at all, I think the mighty mix is better than that to be honest! Iams has a bad rep too and is also stupidly expensive.

Ziwipeak is excellent though, I'm not sure how much it costs in NZ, but it really is a great food. You also feed less of that so the bags tend to last a long time, offsetting costs. You could also mix in some beef mince or something occasionally, and throw in the odd chicken piece for her teeth.

I make my pet food from scratch and feed it raw, it's cheap but takes some learning to get it right. Check out the raw forum for more details.

Good luck with your new pup. smile
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Bella

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Barked: Fri Oct 12, '12 12:15am PST 
Thanks for all the advice. Can i just ask whats in mighty mix that makes it a not so good food? Just so i know what to look out for.
I know that they shouldn't have corn and that the 1st ingredient (preferably the 1st 3) should be meat/protein. Any other biggies to be avoided or followed?
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Jackson Tan

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Barked: Fri Oct 12, '12 1:22am PST 
It's the meat products and fats thing that bothers me. What is it, really? It could be feathers, beaks and hooves as far as we know, all smothered in tallow to make it palatable. Foods that list their ingredients like that do not contain real meat.

The best thing to look for is a specified meat meal. Meal is just muscle meat with the water taken out of it. The best foods will have that as their first ingredient.

There is a 'so you are confused about dog food' thread here, I'll bump it up for you.
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Bella

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Barked: Fri Oct 12, '12 12:24pm PST 
Thanks for that. I had a read of the "are you confused about food", i think here in NZ its going to be a case of lots of reading of labels smile

I found these ones which looks ok
http://www.trademe.co.nz/pets-animals/dogs/food/auction-52171722 0.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/pets-animals/dogs/food/auction-52177 7164.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/pets-animals/dogs/food/auction-52 1872278.htm

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Uno

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Barked: Fri Oct 12, '12 10:29pm PST 
Do you have any pet boutique type places in NZ? they tend to have better quality brands, I know that Australia sells brands like Canidae and Holistic Select, so it's very possible that it's sold in NZ as well.

You should be able to get orijen/acana over there which are great foods.

here's their retailer list
http://www.orijen.co.nz/new-zealand-stockists
Also these 2 companies are from NZ and make raw, freeze dried and dehydrated foods. Addiction also has kibble

http://www.k9natural.com/

http://www.addictionfoods.com /newzealand/products.php

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