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Nadiya

Meanie, Ninny- Nag Na Na
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 7, '06 8:05pm PST
BOL Rosie you and my bro Bert should get together, he just loves cat poo too!
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Wolfie

Wolf-man
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 7, '06 8:25pm PST
Tracker- I go to grad school at NCSU. And yes, we have done numerous studies on grain free diets with great success-hence why I feed my pup a grain-free diet smile I can't post the article here, but if you go to dog.com nutrition forums, it's posted there for more info.
Shiva- I know that perscription diets are recommended by vets for that sole purpose that they are needed, and work. I was saying that if vets choose to feed the SD maintenence formulas they get a 40% profit, or at least they are entitled to (so why wouldn't every vet take advantage of that?). Upon graduation of any vet school (NCSU in particular), the certified vets register with Hill's for the purpose of carrying the perscription diets in their practice, and they also get the "deal" of selling the maintence with benefits. I also know that most of these vets have never taken a nutrition class in their life, which is why most vets simply don't know. That is for us animal nutrition grad students smile We are beginning informational seminars instructing pre-vets (in vet school) about "what's really in pet food" and companion animal nutrition requirements and what some commercial foods lack in the sort. The sad part is that these seminars are optional...

Oh yeah....cat poo all the way! wink LOL

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Kaiser

The Mister
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 7, '06 8:28pm PST
Ginger.. I'm confused.. you said you do nearly as much as the vet and quote: "dentals, spays/neuters, sprain surgeries, and the list goes on.". The way that came out in your post sounds like you yourself do these procedures.. please clarify.
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Kaiser

The Mister
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 7, '06 8:42pm PST
Thank you Wolfie.. you've just clarified what I've suspected all along.

Now what do you think of vets that promote IAMS!!?? BOL!!

oh and I think all pups can agree on cat poop! BOL!!!
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Shiva

Momma where are- you?
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 7, '06 8:55pm PST
Well we personally don't sell any products from any company except prescription food so I guess I can't comment then. We made the decision long ago to stay out of the postition of picking one type of food for regular dog food. I personally do know a lot of vets that carry the regular non prescription science diet for over the counter sales. I will have to ask some techs I know to see what their vet is doing regarding the 40% profit. If this is happening truly then that is a very disturbing thought for me. Also I would like to state that one our most recent additions to our practice who just graduated 2 yrs ago did take the optional nutritional courses and has since then had a very strong interest in nutrition. ( he graduated from msu) I just wanted everybody here to know that not all vets are taking advantage of these profits so don't think bad about vets nutrition advice because of some greedy people. Thank you wolfie for clarifying that info for me.
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Shiva

Momma where are- you?
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 7, '06 8:59pm PST
Kaiser- we don't advise anything from iams. I was not aware of their practices until I started here at dogster and am shocked by them. Now whenever a client asks if iams is a good food, I let them know about their history. We only advise prescription foods from science diet, purina, and royal canin. If they are looking for basic dog food, I try not to pick just one and talk it up. I focus on guiding them away from the really bad ones such as ol roy, pedigree, alpo and the likes.
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Zeus

The perfect- gentleman.
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 7, '06 9:32pm PST
Yes, vet techs can do procedures such as what she listed with the aide or supervision of a veterinarian. Me, myself, do dentals, but when certian situations arrive such as a tooth abscess and the tooth must come out, I get immediate assistance from the vet. I
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Pooch ~ I- miss you ~

love forever
 
 
Barked: Fri Apr 7, '06 9:48pm PST
Yes, the prescription diets are formulated in certain ways for specific problems. However, I think everyone here was discussing the regular foods and not the presciption foods...

The only issue I have with the prescription diets is that while they may help with different conditions because of how they are formulated, they also contain many low-cost low-quality ingredients which could have negative effects on animals.
Example, as mentioned earlier in this thread- Science Diet has a prescription food for obesity where the main ingredient is peanut shells!

Unfortunately there are only 1-2 brands of prescription dog food available in most areas, so there is not much choice if your dog has a condition that requires special nutrition...Unless you can find a vet that will help you formulate a home-made diet that fits the nutritional needs, which I know some people have done-- or if you can find a non-prescription food which is similar and discuss its use with your vet. (I did this with my cat, she had kidney disease and I discussed diet options with my vet and was able to choose a high-quality non-prescription diet with low protein and phosphorus, which my cat thrived on- after switching to it her kidney values went back to normal and stayed at normal/high normal consistently.)
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Mattie

Say no to B.O.!
 
 
Barked: Sat Apr 8, '06 6:10am PST
vet tech can do dentals, but they cannot do surgery .They can only assist the vet during the surgery.They are the same as a nurse is to a doctor during surgeries. It is against the law for them to actually perform surgery, and I would be pretty freaked out if a vet tech with 2 yrs of school performed any surgery on my dog I'll tell ya.

Taken from a vet school website:

vet tech duties include: assisting surgery, giving injections, taking x-rays, anesthitizing patients, offering post op care, cleaning teeth, etc.

vet technitions do not: prescribe, diagnose, or perform surgery, and they always work under the supervision of a veterinarian.
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♥- Fiona

born to be- pampered
 
 
Barked: Sat Apr 8, '06 7:07am PST
You're right on Mattie. My mom is a tech (or was before she became a stay at home mommy to me and my boys big grin ) and she did all those things, but nothing more!
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