|Barked: Mon Mar 4, '13 5:54pm PST |
|I posted this on another forum looking for advise...I just thought i'd post it here as well..
I am a little unsure if this was the right subforum, to post in, but since i'm trying to find out if there is any kind of legal action that i could take i decided to choose this one, if someone feels it should be moved to the training section feel free to do so
i know of two trainers, and i'm sorry but i deffinetly do not agree with theirtechniques and am curious as to what your opinions on it are. Keep in mind i do NOT have a problem with Prong collars, i own 2 myself. But i think this is overkill..
First dog i saw "trained" a husky puppy around 5 months old, as soon the dog saw the prong collar the dogs tail went inbetween it's legs, ears straight back, and he pissed all over the floor, they were training him agility, and sit, stay, and heel. The husky was afraid of the agility tunnel, if i was training this dog i would have tried to lure him in the tunnel with tastey treats. But what she did was shove the dog in the tunnel, and the person on the other side grabbed the end of leash and dragged the dog through they did this multiple times, and the husky's fear only seemed to get worse...
I thought agility and training was suppose to be fun not scary?
The other dog was a GSD, same age, and he had a similar reaction to the prong collar but he didn't pee.She was training him sit, and when he didn't sit the first time she told him she grabbed the lead with both hands and yanked straight up,THREE TIMES HARD,the dogs feet were off the ground. Any time the dog didn't immedietly respond to the command this would happen. When training lay down, they would step on the leash very close to the collar so the dog would be yanked down...
i saw a WHOLE lot of yawning during both training sessions, i doubt it was cause they were tired, BOTH dogs were not excited about the training At all, i felt so sorry for them..
And is it normal for dogs to be fearful of the prong collar? because none of the dogs i used a prong collar on were ever afraid of it, and i didn't use to prong to train the basics..
Apparantly to teach a puppy to sit for the first time you tighten the prong a lot and wait to see if the dog just sits on it's own, and if it doesn't and just freaks out you push it's but down and than release the prong.
Is there anyone i can contact about this or report this trainer too?
Well one of the trainers is FAR harsher than the others, and i was just wondering if there is anything i can do about it..He choked a dog who was "too hyper" with the choke chain until it passed out so "it could see the light of god", I was appalled and couldn't help but say something..And he admitted to me that it's not the first time he's done it and says he's a dog he can take it and that people are far too soft to their dogs.
I overheard him in a conversation about positive reinforcement training, and he says it's innefective because it's only bribeing, and the dog cannot be trusted to obey a command without a treat..(which i know for a fact isn't the case if it's trained right)
And he went on and on about how much quicker it is to train a dog his way.
And for every command they teach they choke the dog until it accidently does what they want barking the command at them the whole time, and the dogs reward for accidently doing it, is that it stops getting choked.
And it's funny because a lot of the dogs he "trains" only listen when the prong is on them
By the way this place has a VERY VERY good reputation and train police dogs..
BTW. I currently work there ( i want to quit ASAP but it's hard to find a job)I trained one of his imboarders recently, and when he did a lesson with it in front of it's owners he went on and on to me about how that was "the best lesson ever" and is now giving me more time to train the dogs he's suppose to be training...LOL little does he know i do not use his methods at all...
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