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Buckle up your pet?

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Huck

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Barked: Tue Jun 12, '12 4:50pm PST 
After the horrible accident that Elicia Calhoun had yesterday and all 6 of her dogs ended up thrown from her SUV and 2 of them died, I have realized I need to take even more precautions to keep the dogs safe in the car. Right now they are in crates in the back of my Toyota Rav4. I have a 2008 and it has 8 airbags so tem in harnesses is not an option but I do need to move the crates out of the crumple zone in the back of the car and move them forward and secure them with cargo straps, NOT bungee cords. I realize in a serious accident there is no guarantee but keeping them secure in the car will help. Also putting emergency info tags on their crates as well.
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y

dog-sitter in- charge.
 
 
Barked: Tue Jun 12, '12 5:48pm PST 
When I was car shopping I brought the specific car I have because it could safely provide buckling points for all the dogs. There were other cars that I overall liked better or had a better value, but there weren't enough anchor points for the pack so they never became a serious consideration.
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Huck

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Barked: Tue Jun 12, '12 6:11pm PST 
Yes they are a serious consideration. I was looking at the car today and trying to figure out how to secure the crates. The 2 300's are going to be easy but add that 3rd 150 crate and I am not sure how to arrange them and secure them. I have always wanted quick and easy acsess to the dogs in case of an emergency and I need to get them out fast but without doing it the way they are now, that is not going to happen. I actually thought about getting rid of it and getting something else that will put the dogs more in the middle of the vehicle like a mini van, that I can secure their crates in.
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Maggie,- Tika, &- Porter

Aussie-tastic- Trio
 
 
Barked: Wed Jun 13, '12 12:16am PST 
Why I stopped at three dogs? My Explorer only has belts for three.

I use Roadie harnesses and one homemade harness (that is based heavily on the Roadie) - the homemade one probably is the best one of the bunch though as I know the stitching and it fits securely.

I never have understood all the excuses in not containing dogs...the chances of a seat belt being a hindrance in an accident is so low I don't even think about it. I worked on an ambulance for many years and saw some pretty bad injuries...but the hardest were the dog injuries. I will never forget the little dog that had its head go through the driver's front headrest and had it's head come partially off - I vowed that day if I ever got a dog it would be secure in the car.

My dogs have many 10's of thousands of miles under their belts and they are always belted. Two "there and back" cross country trips and countless trips to the surrounding states and the dogs are always secured. I only have one dog that ever consider backing out of his harness (Porter) and I spent a lot of time working with him to make sure he was safe and knew that the harness needed to always be on...I do have a small strap I added to his harness to make it extra hard for him to back out of it though.

The thought of my dogs getting free and running away after an accident is terrifying to me.
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Jackson Tan

Lad about town
 
 
Barked: Wed Jun 13, '12 5:17am PST 
For people who put their dog in the cargo section of their 4x4 or don't have a spare buckle, this is how JT is restrained.

I actually take the back seat out of my jeep (although that's a bit embarrassing if someone needs a lift, lol). Any way I have one of these belt clips that has a leash clip on one end and a seat belt buckle on the other. I use cable ties and attach the buckle end to the metal loop which usually secures the seat. His leash is knotted so I clip it to his harness (ruffwear web master) and then clip the seat belt attachment under the knot. He still has movement but cannot be thrown forward. This has saved him from being flung into the front seat several times and is so easy to do, even for little trips ... just clip the knotted leash and you're away!
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Tohbi

Blue-Eyed Devil
 
 
Barked: Wed Jun 13, '12 5:51am PST 
I buckle up Tohbi to help protect my new car.

I just got a Scion iQ - very tiny. I took Tohbi to the dealer and made sure he fit well and could get in and out wit ease (he has bad knees and jumping into my Honda Element gives him pause).

He loves it. I fold down the rear seats and put a horse blanket and then a fluffy through in the back (tucked down and relatively secure). Then I have a zip line that goes across the back and Tohbi is hooked via his roadie harness. I'm not sure if he's safer, as there's not a lot of room back there anyway, but it keeps him in the back and not jumping up into the passenger seat.

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Tucker

My Mom is an- ambassador for- Mars PetCare
 
 
Barked: Wed Jun 13, '12 8:09am PST 
I think restraining your dog in the car is a great idea. My dog Tucker rides to work with me almost every day, and while I don't currently restrain him, I am planning to get him a seat belt very soon. He doesn't distract me from driving or bother me, but I would be devastated if we were in an accident and something happened to him that could have been prevented.
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Titus

Cave canis- vigilo omnis
 
 
Barked: Wed Jun 13, '12 11:59am PST 
I think we're talking about two levels of restraint here - one that keeps a pet from interfering with/distracting the driver of the vehicle and *causing* (or contributing to) an accident, and the next that reduces the chances of injury (or the severity of injury) *in the event* of an accident.

I think the first level is just common sense... With the second level, we can only do the best we can with what we have to work with - be as safe as you can be in *your* car with *your* dog.

It's important to remember too, that even with all the safety devices designed for human occupants, they are designed to reduce the severity of injuries (to humans) in crashes of 40 mph or lower with objects of similar weight. Obviously, collisions at higher speeds and/or with heavier objects will lead to much more serious outcomes, as evidenced by that horrific crash in AZ earlier this week. cry

Random crash test info for anyone who's interested:

http://www.edmunds.com/car-safety/what-crash-test-sco res-mean.html

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Milton

Im just a little- guy
 
 
Barked: Wed Jun 13, '12 4:53pm PST 
Hate this law. 1000 dollars???? Wow!

I don't restrain my dog. He is not a distraction or a child, he is a dog. He sleeps in the front seat in a little bed and is never allowed in my lap. I don't wear my seat belt either and I don't wear helmets. OOOOOOOOOOOOO, I wish people would mind their own business. It's my business if I don't want to wear seatbelts or restrain my dog in one. I drive a late model SUV and it does not have air bags. It's also a notorious roll over model, mostly because the suburban soccer mom types bought them. I drive defensively. 0ver 10 years accident free.

Ridiculous! Pretty sure there is real crime in New Jersey that needs fighting. Lets not focus on minor issues.
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Huck

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Barked: Wed Jun 13, '12 5:04pm PST 
Titus I agree. You can only do what you can do. Today, I rearranged the crates so they are not in the crumple zone of my SUV and am trying to figure out out to secure the crates so they stay put and not get thrown all over if in a serious accident. My dogs are important to me and their safety in the car is a number one concern, it always has been but the terrible accident on the AZ hwy this week made me realize it could be any of us who travel with our canine companions.
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