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Lola- Penelope
I run with the- big dogs! |
 | | Barked: Thu Nov 5, '09 9:58am PST | |  | |  | | My friend takes her GD to a small neighborhood dog park to meet other GD's. There was only about 8 dogs there when this lady came with her mixed 20 lb dog. Now I only heard what happened, I wasn't there, but what I understand is this is what happened. The smaller mixed dog was some what snappy with the other dogs that came near. All the GD's were at the other side of the park, and my friend was playing tug with her GD. My friend didn't see the small dog come over, and she's not sure if the small dog got mad at her dog for playing tug, or if her dog may have stepped on the small one during play. Either way the small dog got pissed and went after her Gd. The GD reacted and it lasted less than 5 seconds when friend got her dog away. The owner of the small dog picked up her dog and took off. My friend had no chance to check to see if both dogs were ok, before the lady took off.
Also, when the scuffle happened another dog made contact with both dogs, but more so with the small (this dog tends not to like fights).
The next day, the lady of the small dog came to the park with a vet bill and wants my friend to pay. My friend is skeptical though, for one, her dog has never injured a dog before (i know this doesn't mean much) and also, because the dog obviously showed signs of aggression towards dogs just in the one day he was there and how the lady didn't stick around to even look the dog over after the scuffle.
My friend is wondering, if she should offer to pay half the bill, or not. If she did, would that mean she takes responsibility for something that may not be her fault. Her GD is not aggressive at all and usually will just snap at dogs bothering her and go to her owner.
Just curious. The rules post that dog owners are responsible for any injury their dogs cause to another dog, person or property. But she's not even sure her dog did the injury.
The lady said she'd call the "dog police" if my friend didn't pay.
I think she should just do that... what do you all think? |  |  | |  |
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Isy
Anything if you- just throw the- ball!!! |
 | | Barked: Thu Nov 5, '09 10:52am PST | | | | | | It sounds a lot like a scam to me! I would want proof the injuries on that vet bill were from my dog, and I'd want to see the assulted dog! How does your friend know that the dog that was "attacked" was the one that went to the vet? The only reason to rush a dog off like that is to get it to the vet cuz it's bleeding out or something. If the 20# dog had been hurt that badly, it woulda been obvious. Sounds to me like this person was looking for a reason to take her dog to the vet at someone else's expense. Personally, I'd say call the "dog cops" and let them sort it out. | | | | |
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Lola- Penelope
I run with the- big dogs! |
| | Barked: Thu Nov 5, '09 12:42pm PST | | | | | | The reason why she didn't see the dog come over was because she was in a group of other dogs and people and she (owner of GD) was playing tug with her GD, so she was preoccupied with her dog.
As far as the other lady wanting her to pay for vet bill, my friend wasn't at the park yesterday when the lady came looking for her and was told later by one of the ladies that was there, both during the incident and yesterday. Today, my friend will be going her usual time, hoping to talk to the lady, if she comes. We'll see how it plays out. I know if I was in my friends shoes I wouldn't know what to do either. If Lola hurt another dog, I'd want to do what ever possible, but at the same time, I just find it crazy that she took off like that.
Also, I've said this before, when people bring dogs that are fearful or aggressive that even the most even tempered dogs can react. This is what makes me the most nervous at dog parks, especially when the dog is small. | | | | |
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Beanster,- RN, CGC
We don't do- doodles!!!
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| | Barked: Thu Nov 5, '09 1:52pm PST | | | | | | We have no dog parks around here, and I am not sure that is a bad thing. At least once a day, usually more often, someone is writing on here about something awful that happened at the dog park. No one is ever writing about what a great place it is, only about how their dog or another dog either attacked or got attacked. What is the big draw with bringing your dog to a dog park anyway??? If you have a friend with a dog, why not just have the two of them play together at one of your houses??? Dogs are not humans, they can and do react in unpredictable ways, that is their nature. Yet, everyone acts sooo surprised when something like this happens and then starts the blame game. To me, IF you take your dog to a dog park, you should assume all responsibility for any injuries happening to your dog. It seems like a given that risk is there... by entering you are exposing your dog, and/or yourself to injury or worse. It only seems logical to me that any financial responsibility should also be yours as well. Otherwise I can see the above mentioned idea of taking a dog to the park and letting it scuffle just to get a vet exam paid for by someone else. If you were responsible for your own injuries then maybe everyone would be paying better attention to their own dog's safety. | | | | |
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Mulder
Its playtime- now?! |
| | Barked: Thu Nov 5, '09 2:54pm PST | | | | | | Beanster,
There are lots of people who go to dog parks simply because they are large, fenced-in areas for their dogs to run around in. I, personally, don't have a fenced-in yard. There are also no secure areas around here that dogs are allowed on, and while I do have some trust in Mulder's recall, all of our local non-dog parks are right off of major roads... so one little mistake could equal death.
I'd personally rather take my chances at the dog park  | | | | |
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Lola- Penelope
I run with the- big dogs! |
| | Barked: Thu Nov 5, '09 4:47pm PST | | | | | | oh Beanster! First, we do take our dogs over to each others houses, but not very often. Second, friend doesn't have hardly a yard at all. Third, in the last year, I have yet to see a fight at a dog park that has caused injuries (even lil ones) Although I hear them (on here mostly) and am aware that they happen. Being in a city, and having a hyper young dog, I feel aweful when I cant take her some where she can run and run and run. For me, it's is like having children. Kids fall off jungle gyms and brakes limbs, go to school and get chicken pox or bullied by a kid. It happens, we just need to be responsible for our dogs. If Lola gets injured its my fault, if Lola injures a dog it's my fault. I have to look at it that way. I don't take Lola to small or busy dog parks because it's overwhelming. I usually take her to an open space field that has many many acres of hiking and trails, so I can walk and she can explore and run, but always stays close to me. Tis does not take away ALL risk of injury, but it takes away the main factors. I worry more about Rattle snakes than a dog fight that causes injury here. As for my friend... even though her dog has never had issues with smaller dogs before, my friend is now afraid of them, for her dogs sake.
I just couldn't imagine that all her physical exercise would be limited to our walks (which we do 2X day) and her limited zoomies in the yard. | | | | |
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Chamois
"that's my- favorite thing" |
| | Barked: Thu Nov 5, '09 5:41pm PST | | | | | | I'd be very, very careful what I said to her or to anyone else (that she might call as a witness, either to what happened or to what I said). Document, starting now. Write down everything in as much detail as she can and as soon as possible, while she still remembers it. Also, talk to the other people who were there, and write down what they remember, especially if she called her dog or was watching it. Your friend should have several to many pages by the time she is done.
This sounds like a professional troublemaker... not just the letting her dog cause problems, or just taking the dog off, but also threatening to call the police even before she has talked to your friend. ??.
Being responsible for your dog is entirely different than being taken to the cleaners by a scam artist. (or even just a pushy rude person).
There will be plenty of time to pay vet bills if they are legitimate. | | | | |
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