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Dutch
Hey Big Dog! |
 | | Barked: Mon May 12, '08 10:57am PST | |  | |  | | There may indeed be PETA members that love dogs and support responsible dog ownership - if they are PETA/HSUS members or supporters then I believe that they are unaware of the organizations goals, or they are seriously misguided. Unfortunately the ultimate goal of PETA and HSUS is the total elimination of pets. Both Ingrid Newkirk (PETA) and Wayne Pacelle (HSUS) have stated their ideal would be for all people to become vegetarians and for all animals to live "natural" lives in the wild without human interference.
So when we paint either PETA or HSUS as being extreme, animal rights groups who stand in direct opposition to the vast majority of Americans, we are simply telling the truth. Neither PETA nor HSUS are the friend or ally of animals and the people who love them.
As I would never join an organization that had policies that I was diametrically opposed to, I have to assume that any member of PETA/HSUS believes in the organizations ultimate goal.
No one has to work too hard to alienate people from either PETA or HSUS. Once people become educated to their intent, the extreme policies of those organizations and their leaders pretty much take care of that. If you love owning pets and are not a vegetarian, you can not logically be a consenting, fully aware member of PETA/HSUS.
To say someone is an "anti-dog crusader" is not factual as PETA/HSUS are against all ownership of animals, not just dogs. If you do some research on the woman in the OPs original post, you will see that she isn't just anti-dog.Edited by moderator Tue Jun 3, '08 9:58am PST
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Augustin
Arrrr... where- be the rum? |
| | Barked: Mon May 12, '08 11:03am PST | | | | | | If you're talking about a story about the actions of the groups PETA or HSUS- and sure that the groups indeed ENDORSE the actions of the member about whom you are speaking- arguing about PETA is perfectly sensible.
The woman you mentioned who is against dog parks and dog ownership is not, as far as I can tell, acting on orders of PETA or HSUS.
I worked for an environmental advocacy group for a while, and several of my coworkers were both pet owners and PETA members. Their reasoning was that, while they do not agree with all or even most of what PETA does, it does certain things they find valuable AND that nobody else is doing. I agree with that. For example, calling out Rainbow Exotics on cruelty to small animals is something that another, more moderate organization SHOULD be doing, but currently only PETA is doing. That isn't worth a membership to me, but if for someone else it is, that is their right.
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Maggie
Maggie Pooter- Scoot |
| | Barked: Mon May 12, '08 1:17pm PST | | | | | | I also can't wait to see the slide show. It's great that someone her age is taking such a serious interest into such a serious topic. Hopefully her story can help some people learn that its not pitbulls that are inherintely bad but that ANY dog can bite and hurt people. | | | | |
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Hey Big Dog! |
| | Barked: Mon May 12, '08 1:23pm PST | | | | | | What's doubly sad is that there have been some horrific stories of local pitties suffering serious injuries through abuse and of all the stories I can remember recently the pitties saw their rescuer as just that - someone there to help them. Not one rescuer was bitten or even snapped at. I know that's not how every dog reacts, but I wish the press would report that as part of their body of facts. Give people a more accurate picture of these breeds. | | | | |
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