Shorty's tummy issues. Advice?

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Barked: Thu Dec 6, '12 7:50am PST 
I also thought about saying try chicken and rice. I know I have used it in the past for dogs that have been very sick.

Barked: Thu Dec 6, '12 10:21am PST 
Please don't give your pup Gatorade, there's a lot of sugar in it! Instead you can give a dog Pedialyte.

How is Shorty doing?
Toto, CD, RN, CGC

We don't do- doodles!!!
Barked: Thu Dec 6, '12 2:43pm PST 
In addition to Gatorade being bad for dogs, you need to read labels CAREFULLY with Pepto bismol. Many formulations of it, including chewable tablets, contain the artificial sweetener xylitol which is deadly to dogs, even in small doses.


Bring the ball- back? Why?
Barked: Tue Dec 11, '12 6:34am PST 
All of you have been most helpful. And I love the LOVE on this forum. Shorty being my first dog/child I want to do right by him and get this figured out.

About a week ago, we went back in. Vet gave me another RX for Flagyl, added carafate (to coat his stomach), and I finally got a one a day dosing for him on Pepcid (1/4 of a 10mg tab a day, thank god for pill cutters). He was already on a probiotic when all this started. And on days he doesn't eat, I supplement that for yogurt.
Watching him for this long I started paying more attention and seeing a pattern. Two days of eating, wake up the next morning (with him in my face no less) with his tummy gurgling loud enough my husband can here it. Thats how we know today is a sick day for Shorty. The pattern is there an almost plan-able. I started keeping a log of when he gets food (if he does) and his medication. He has been free of edible chews (like bully sticks) since before the first vet visit. This whole situation is just plain odd to me and our vet. When we went in last, he had blood work and an X-ray done (OUCH!) and both came back completely normal. Hurray that its normal but still no answers. Thinking back to when we first got him, I guess I wasn't paying as close attention (we weren't supposed to be keeping him then) and didn't notice. My mom says he's been like this from the start. But I don't remember the anorexia being this consistent.

I'm triple- superior MAD- now!
Barked: Tue Dec 11, '12 7:18am PST 
He has been on all the meds for a week? How is he doing?

Pepcid and slippery elm bark are great. Max has had tummy aches rarely, I give him SEB, he comes on my lap for a cuddle and is relaxed in 5 minutes.T Tried on me and it was pretty good but not as good as that anti gas stuff - something else you could ask the vet about. Sassy wasn't eating at all and a single dose of Pepcid started her eating again. Dogs are smart, if tummies hurt don't eat! We have a harder time. Exactly what is the problem pup-pup??? Is it the food or something else?

I didn't see that you have ever tried cooking for him, have you? My bland diet has always been half rice cooked to a mush and half skinned chicken breast but Dogster Aina suggested a mix of equal parts turnip, white potato and sweet potato along with an equal part of skinned chicken breast as more soothing. Either of those mixtures are a lot higher in calories than canned food so he wouldn't need to eat much.

Another Dogster recently reported back that a course of a certain antibiotic has stopped the urps for now anyway. Many ulcers in humans are caused by a bacteria and a course of the correct antibiotic kills the bacteria and allows the ulcer to heal. I don't know that dogs get that bacteria or if it causes ulcers in dogs but they certainly do get ulcers.

Bring the ball- back? Why?
Barked: Tue Dec 11, '12 7:41am PST 
On days he eats, he's a bouncing, happy boy. So when we first started on the I/D I was just plain excited he was eating again. But now Im concerned with getting him to eat consistently and how much a day to feed him. As much as I would love to get him on dry food, I found a grain-free canned I want to give a shot at for a few days (Bil-Jac's Grain-free chicken and vegetables).
And I would love to go the homemade route but most of the recipes I've looked at say to add supplements which I can't afford right now.

Here's a question: Food suggestions? Canned or other wise? My vet wants me to (eventually) get him on Science Diet for puppies. But all of them have a corn product in it and I wonder if maybe that's the issue here. (Seeing as I know first hand rice is no issue with him.)

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Barked: Tue Dec 11, '12 7:52pm PST 
Check out the dog food forum. A lot of dogs think Science Diet is overpriced cheap junk. Corn isn't good for a lot of dogs.

The people on the food forum can go into more depth. I have always heard that Canned is better, more meat and provides more water too.

Be careful of your vets advice about food. Many vets are poorly informed, even vets who are really good in other areas.

It is also important to remember that vets are people who have special training. Some of them are fabulous and we can't do without them, but they are as likely to be mistaken, wrong headed or pig headed as any other person.

If you can't find a reason for this, see if you can get a referral to a specialist, especially if you are near a university. Take all of your notes and observations and you may find an answer. In the long run, it might be a lot cheaper then ongoing vet visits that provide no results even though more expensive than a regular vet visit.

Good Luck

Mr. Personality
Barked: Fri Dec 14, '12 8:47am PST 
When I first adopted Eduardo, he had some bad stomach problems. He still burps a lot to this day. I guess I don’t really understand what is going on with Shorty. Is he vomiting only when he doesn’t eat? Is he okay when he does? Anything else going on? If Eduardo eats twice a day, he is fine. He cannot handle corn.

Don't Wake Me Up
Barked: Sat Dec 15, '12 11:35am PST 
Has he only been on the prescription diet? Is the loss of appetite new or is this something he has had before? Has he shown the loss of appetite on other foods? Is his stool firm, soft, or runny?

Bring the ball- back? Why?
Barked: Mon Dec 17, '12 9:30am PST 
I decided to try out two new different dog foods, to get him off the I/D. I started with Science Diet Puppy for small breeds. (I know everyone says its "bleh" but I have my reasons for trying). We had the same pattern. Eat for two days, then a sick day. I while he had a "sick" day, I fasted him until he was BEGGING for food, aka tummy settled, that evening. Then I switched again, to Wellness Core Puppy. So far so good. We are on day three since I started the Wellness Core. Which happens to be a 5/5 star on DogFoodAdvisors.com (thanks to whoever suggested that) and grain-free. Its higher than I want to pay but I need him on healthy food. My reasons for trying the two different foods was this: corn allergy. The I/D has corn in it and so does Science Diet. All the foods he's been on are canned and I started adding extra water to his food to be sure he's hydrated since he's not been drinking on his own much. Three days in a row of eating is his current record. I may be jinxing myself with my excitement but hey I'm excited. cheer
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