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WHY IS MY DOG EMACIATED??

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Kaiser

Jolly Roger
 
 
Barked: Sat May 5, '12 10:57pm PST 
I am officially freaking out.

My dog is 17 months old. He has always been emaciated since we adopted him at 8 weeks. When we adopted him he had worms and was medically de-wormed. I wrote on this forum for help a while ago because he was still emaciated.

I have tried:
Raw diet
Satin balls
Special food for dogs with allergies
DE
Prescription intestinal formula food
Tripling the recommended servings of food
Pancrea-plus prescription supplement
Prescription nutrient additives
Thyroid tests
Liver tests
Pancreas tests

His stool is normal (unless you over-feed him in which case he gets diarrhea like any other dog) so it is not EPI

I am begging for ideas here. Is there any diagnostic test I can ask the vet to do? Does anyone have any ideas for why a dog would be emaciated his entire life despite being provided more than adequate nutrition?

He is so skinny, he is 50lbs no matter how much or how little or what kind of food we have tried. If anyone knows of a veterinary specialist or trial or ANYTHING I am absolutely desperate. Please post any idea you have no matter how silly.
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Rexy

I dig in mud- puddles!
 
 
Barked: Sat May 5, '12 11:10pm PST 
Have you gotten a second opinion by any chance?

Have you tried contacting your nearest veterinary school? Or better yet, having your vet contact them? I think that this would be my course of action at this point. hug
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MIKA&KAI

Akita Pals- Always.
 
 
Barked: Sun May 6, '12 6:39am PST 
I agree with Rexy. Get a second opinion. A full metabolic panel,tests for any possible internal parasite/disease,anything that could disrupt ability to absorb calories/nutrition. Basically a really good once over by a specialist would certainly at least give you an answer possibly,more than you have now.
Your pup is beautiful it would be wonderful to be able to see him at a healthy weight.hugwishes
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Maxwell

I'm triple- superior MAD- now!
 
 
Barked: Sun May 6, '12 6:57am PST 
What does he look most like, the first or the last couple photos? Looks okay in the last ones.

He is a short haired young adult dog of a breed that does tend to be slender. This is the year he will start to put on muscle. I sure understand that seeing every single rib and vertebra is not acceptable though!

I found out that overfeeding doesn't work to put on weight when I increased Sassy's food hoping to put some fat on her. She just pooped it out. Later she informed me that her tummy couldn't hold all the food I was giving her and upchucked the excess so I started feeding her more often. I found I could feed her more calories IF I increased the number of meals per day we ended up at 5 meals a day. Have you tried that yet?
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Member Since
01/03/2012
 
 
Barked: Sun May 6, '12 3:13pm PST 
Looks ok to me in the last few photos. I have a 10yr old lab mix that is super hyper, always busy, he is thin, you can see his ribs if he moves a certin way, but if I feed him more he just poops more. He has been raw fed his whole life, he's healthy, he just doesn't put weight on. He is very muscular and to me he looks good, I call him my bodybuilder boy. I personally would rather see them on the thinner side, much easier on their joints. Cindi
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Josie- *Forever in- Our Hearts*

Happy to work
 
 
Barked: Sun May 6, '12 4:04pm PST 
Very cute boy, I also feel that he looks okay in the last few pics. Does your vet think that he is underweight?? If so I would go to a specialist, but if your vet thinks that he's fine then I would not worry. Josie has been 36.4 pounds since she was 9 months old, when she is wet (she has a fluffy coat) she looks like skin and bones. She has been perfectly healthy throughout her life, although I had to deal with all the people who petted her and felt her ribs asking why she was so thin. She has a fast metabolism and is very energetic so she never really gained weight. We never found anything wrong with her, Shes now 11 years old and still 36.4 lbs!
You have to remember most people have overweight dogs, you should be able to feel all the ribs without much fat between the skin and the ribs.
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Kaiser

Jolly Roger
 
 
Barked: Sun May 6, '12 9:59pm PST 
I added more photos from a month ago. It is hard to see because he is dark, but every vertebrae pokes out, his hips are prominent, his ribs even more so, and his midsection below his ribs is no more than 6 inches wide. I have see chihuahuas with larger midsections. Even his facial photos you can see the depressions where fat would normally accumulate. He has zero percent body fat. There is just skin stretched over muscle and bone.

My vet only started testing because I expressed my growing concern that he wasn't filling out like I know a dog should. At this point he said just to bring him in every now and then to weigh him and see if he improves. I don't think he is as worried about it as I am, but I think it is cruel to let him stay skinny like this if we can fix it. And we have tried everything advised both from people here on Dogster and the vet. This is the second vet we have consulted, the first just said "he'll fill out."

I'm not new to owning a dog and I even understand that some breeds are skinnier than others. But even our dog trainer commented on how unhealthy his weight is. This isn't just seeing his ribs, or just a skinny dog. He doesn't have one ounce of fat on his body. If you saw him you would think he was starved.
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Skarlet

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Barked: Sun May 6, '12 11:19pm PST 
Have you tried moving him up in food with several meals throughout the day till you could just give him his food free choice? I'm not sure if that's even a possibility if you have other dogs, but just an idea. We had a dog that had trouble gaining weight and with him we found that it helped if we crated him for a while after he ate so he'd settle down and let the food digest because otherwise he just never stopped moving. From your profile it looks like your dog is quite active and a bit on the anxious side. Maybe rewarding calm behaviour would also help a bit in the long run.. it couldn't anything anyway.
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Luna

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Barked: Mon May 7, '12 12:54am PST 
Dobies are naturally thin as it is. But i do see where you are concerned about his weight. Have you tried putting him on a high protein diet? I would definitely get a second opinion from another vet and have them run a diagnostic test for intestinal disease. It seems to me that his body isn't sucking up the proteins and calories like it should.
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Scooter,- PAWS

Power of the Paw- for those who- need it
 
 
Barked: Mon May 7, '12 4:13am PST 
I agree on the second opinion as I would be concerned too. Can we also ask how much is he being fed? I think he might benefit from a high protein diet and eating at least twice a day. He's a young dog who should have lots of energy. How's his energy level?
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